for your viewing pleasure, compare the two quotes:.
october 15, 1966 watchtower, page 631:.
"'what about the year 1975?
Could there be a fire in the movie theatre? Could be, could be!! Are we saying that there is a fire right now? We are not saying.
(Mad rush out the doors and random trampling of a few people.)
That's my take of 1975. I remember vividly how the majority of the congregation I was a attending reacted to 1975. In 1974, there were a lot of holidays to Hawaii, new cars, quitting jobs etc.
The semantic manipulation and revisionist history is astounding.
according to jws, evolution is false.
so how do they explain these human-like fossils?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_evolution.
Or did she mean fellatio? I dunno. I'm confused now.
i'm 19 and trying to get a job.
my dad won't pay for my college if i don't pioneer.. if i get a job, i can't pioneer while in college.. i can supposedly work and study, but i need a good way to get rid of pioneering (it was never my idea in the first place - blame the parents with their social coercion).. if i stop pioneering, i will be told by my parents that i don't love jehovah (not that i care what they say).. how can i do this as painlessly as possible?.
i want to move out someday and have enough money to do this.. by the way, if you read my started topics you will see my situation in more detail and that my dad is the coordinator of the boe..
1. Student loan. 2. Move out. 3. Part-time job. 3. Get living. 4. No regrets.
according to jws, evolution is false.
so how do they explain these human-like fossils?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_evolution.
Debator said:
Evolution is just another word for "adaption" within species with extreme amounts time used to get over the difficult bits.
Science may build on knowedge but it is constantly destroying the previous theories as it goes along and just sticks the new theories in a frame called evolution (hense why darwins original theory is forgotten but the title is kept). Content is unimportant as long as it can be called Evolution and they can reject a designer.
Hi Debator:
So your main issue seems to be with science then. Am I right in saying that? Again, I would encourage you to read more about the scientific method as I don't think you have a good grasp of it. That's not meant to be an insult. Just to continue with this discussion is more or less useless when you have closed your mind to science and it's methods.
according to jws, evolution is false.
so how do they explain these human-like fossils?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_evolution.
Hi Xchange
The problem about debating Evolution is you are arguing the process and you get into circular arguments.
I agree. Circular arguments are tiring and unnecessary.
It's like looking at how a car engine works and saying it made itself,
Maybe you misunderstand the theory of evolution or haven't done enough research on it. No problems if you haven't, there is a lot of information to wade through.
intelligent design says there was a maker.
Not sure of this statement. I agree that the car engine had designers. No one is saying otherwise.
Calling someone a Darwinist is pegging them down to their belief that we came from some kind of random survival of the fittest type process (despite the fact few of Darwins explanations have suvived they have been replaced by a multitude of apparently reasonable theories of how you can get from sludge to man in a billion years without intervention from another source)
You do realize that science is a process of adding/building knowledge to previous knowledge. Should I call you a Russellite despite the fact few of Russells' explanations have survived they have been replaced by a multitude of apparently reasonable explanations?
For me Darwinism fails because it uses time as a plaster to solve the problem that things (while adapting) basically still remain true to type from current observation from the world around us.
Ok. At least I can understand where you are coming from.
Genesis 1:21 (New International Version)
21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Not sure of the scripture inclusion here. Is this your evidence for intelligent design? If so, how can I trust this statement? Who wrote this statement? Did they observe God creating these great creatures? Did God tell the writer to pen this?
according to jws, evolution is false.
so how do they explain these human-like fossils?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_evolution.
I'm still trying to figure out what a Darwinist is.
well, i know its a bit self-serving since i allready posted this in jwfacts thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/199939/1/watchtower-images-required, but i think its quite funny and things have been kind of serious around here for the past couple of weeks.. it seem to me that when jahs chanel have desided (im kidding, they has been told) the one and true god really hate christmas and will kill you in nasty ways if you go ahead and celebrate it, it provide a pretty compelling case for not celebrating christmas.
but the governing body can make an even stronger case than that: not only will jesus cry and clice you up if you celebrate christmas, you will also have a really bad time.
wow!.
Hi xchange
false analogy
Xbox's weren't around then Birthdays were. Jesus knew his cousin was beheaded and murdered at a pagan birthday celebration. Jesus saw these celebrations and felt no need to do them, why would anyone do differently?
Hello Debator:
You said: "Jesus saw these celebrations". How do you know?
You said: "why would anyone do differently?" Jesus didn't drink gin and tonic, why should anyone do differently?
The point was, you don't know everything that Jesus did. Simple.
Did Jesus wash his hands after his bowel movements? Did Jesus pick his nose? Did Jesus even say or do the things that are reported in the Bible?
well, i know its a bit self-serving since i allready posted this in jwfacts thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/199939/1/watchtower-images-required, but i think its quite funny and things have been kind of serious around here for the past couple of weeks.. it seem to me that when jahs chanel have desided (im kidding, they has been told) the one and true god really hate christmas and will kill you in nasty ways if you go ahead and celebrate it, it provide a pretty compelling case for not celebrating christmas.
but the governing body can make an even stronger case than that: not only will jesus cry and clice you up if you celebrate christmas, you will also have a really bad time.
wow!.
Debator said:
Jesus didn't celebrate Birthdays so I don't!
Jesus didn't play Xbox 360 so I don't!
well, i know its a bit self-serving since i allready posted this in jwfacts thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/199939/1/watchtower-images-required, but i think its quite funny and things have been kind of serious around here for the past couple of weeks.. it seem to me that when jahs chanel have desided (im kidding, they has been told) the one and true god really hate christmas and will kill you in nasty ways if you go ahead and celebrate it, it provide a pretty compelling case for not celebrating christmas.
but the governing body can make an even stronger case than that: not only will jesus cry and clice you up if you celebrate christmas, you will also have a really bad time.
wow!.
Funny. I had my first official Xmas gathering/party last year for the first time in my life (42 years old) and it didn't resemble that 'illustration' whatsoever.
Except for the gifts of course.
i tried this one before but my browser was broken.
come let us go up into heaven let us build our thrones their let us become like the most high!
these are satans words they got him and his demons kicked out off heaven!
I was hoping for the Elysian fields myself with a brief stop in Disneyland - hopefully.
