Great thread Mr. Falcon
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3Mozzies
...oh my.. i am not trying to start a creation vs. evolution debate, but something else really did stand out in my mind upon reading this "infamous" book.
and that is that the theory of evolution is a very complex and at times, logically interesting theory.
it makes valid points as well as asking fair and legitimate questions of the theory of creation.
Great thread Mr. Falcon
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3Mozzies
check it out on 'a current affair' on channel 9 friday 25th.
thanks broken promises for the info.
See it here:
http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8211519(will play after a quick Ad)
It's a strange and secretive world, the Exclusive Brethren, but not everyone who joins the group chooses to stay. This was the case for Karen Joyce, a former member of the Exclusive Brethren opened up to Martin King about why she made the painful choice to flee the church, knowing her family would never want to see her again.
3Mozzies
check it out on 'a current affair' on channel 9 friday 25th.
thanks broken promises for the info.
Which religion?? scientology, jw, armish, mormon??
Brethren
check it out on 'a current affair' on channel 9 friday 25th.
thanks broken promises for the info.
I'm thinking x Closed Brethren is some sort of cult and that the TV show A Current Affair will have a segment about them on channel 9?
Am I close?
Spot on!!! You win a trip down under with $75,000 spending money.
3M
check it out on 'a current affair' on channel 9 friday 25th.
thanks broken promises for the info.
Thanks for heads up finallysomepride & Broken Promises
3Mozzies
hey what's up everone?
i'm new to here.
it took a while for me to get this hard feelings out of my system....yup....i'm 18 and i'm on my last year of high school...this year i'm taking it online i don't mind it's ok..i do miss the people at school..as u know my parents r jw and i'm one too...i am very active and i do it all for my parents and to avoid confllict but recenlty i just don't like some of bans no what u can and can't do...i'm behind on school beacuse i reg pio...i'm a active person...i really want to leave this reglion beacuse one i can't visit my family grandparents and cousins in europe beacuse they "worldly"....this for me is bs...so stupid....it's my family... if i do leave the jw it's not like i'm going to do drugs and drink or smoke...my goals r to be in the olympics and to start snowboard cross...i'm going to join a snowboard club next season....i don't care anymore about what people think...it's not like i'm doing something bad..it's something that will bring me joy....today my mom was questioning me like crazy about my new jw friend that i ski with....there was a friend of a friend last year that i hang out once with he was a so called good exmaple but he quit the jw and started drinking and smoking so...yup he's dumb...now my mom is like questioning every i associate with..i hardly have any friends and my life sucks..i want to make it better by snowboard more...i'm allowed to go every secound day as long as i prepair for the crappy propangda meetings....ya...support is hard when my parents don't support my dreams but when i do get in the olympics u have only myself to thank beacuse every time i pratice i have bad snowboard days and good i feel like crying at the mountain my heart breaks i want to be faster and better...i want to be the best.. i told my mom i want to be the best snowboarder out there for snowboard cross and she was like humble yourself and all this jw crap...i just don't know how to put it into words.....it's like a backworkd train...i tried to a last attemt at this jw by trying to join a foriegn group...but it failed bad and that was like the straw that broke my back...years of holding my back of trainnign and being active is making me to go crazy ....it's hard i'm just trying to get my pain out when u fall on your snowborad u have to encorage your self u have to train your self u have to push yourself..i wish i could start life all over agian...the war in my country runid a large part and now this....when ur younger u don't know better and this relgion seems good but when u age and watch the olympics like i do and then watch it live...i got a job at the vanoc thing so i was there...it's a different experience to race ....my country did not do so well and i wish i could represent them and get a gold medal....u know it would make my life better....and bring hope to tons of people facing the same story as me....i was a jw from when i was 10 so i kindof miss chirstmas and holidays but i don't care anymore.....my dad came home talk latter.
Welcome Snowboarder
Glad you found us here. Once you start to see that this strange religion is not for you anymore, you can't help but be true to yourself and leave, I did and I was in it for 30 long boring years!
Be true to yourself and follow your dream (not someone else's). I look forward to seeing you win GOLD at the winter Olympics in the near future.
3Mozzies
i guess the witnesses are rejoicing over the death and destruction of the latest earthquake in n.z.as proof of the imminent coming of armageddon,and their deliverance into the "new world system of things" i can just see it now ,the kh`s in nz will be filled to overflowing in the next month,......then in six months later it will be back to the status quo.. p.s when jesus said their would be" earthquakes in one place after another" couldn`t he have identified these areas for the faithfull ?
so at least beleivers would have been spared the trauma ?
of course non beleivers would have suffered the consequences,but why should beleivers suffer also ?.
My thoughts are with all in NZ
I saw this today, pretty scary:
A house near Lyttleton in New Zealand was left with a gaping hole after a car-sized boulder dislodged during the quake and ploughed through it.
3M
i was on a flight working the beverage cart when i spied with my little eyes two women reading wt material.
i served them and said they looked like jehovah's witnesses.
they smiled and asked if i was a witness and i said nooooooooo.
Well done dogisgod, made me laugh.
I would of loved to have been sitting just in front of them listening to you explain your story to them. Who knows, you might of started the process of one or both of them eventually leaving the cult.
3Mozzies
this is something i've thought about for a while now.
it seems like the same story on this board over and over--the husband, who also might be an elder, ms, etc.--starts having doubts and researching, aka miseryloveselders and franklin massey and others.
he starts to smell the coffee and realizes that this organization isn't what it claims to be.
I know 5 couples that have all woken up from the WT$ and the 5 men woke up first, their wives followed later.
From what I have observed with them, the women were emotionally attached to the religion (being it: friends/life style/paradise hope...etc), making it hard for some to leave.
3Mozzies