Posts by Libelle

before i started digging deeper into this - i hated jws, hated any and every one i came into contact with and that did indeed spill over onto my husband.. the more i read about jw people (not the org) on this site, the more i've seen the mentality that the people in the org are cared about.

Libelle

Syl, thanks for the dragonfly picture - those are pretty.

Mark, you're welcome, and your right about that. Putting yourself into another's shoes, easy in theory, difficult in practice, and so needed in the world.

V665, thank you. :)

Straightshooter, you're welcome

MadSweeney, you know, there are alot of situations, if you look at them closely enough where a person or group of people are both a perpetrator and a victim of those actions. Oh, I sure swing enough between anger and resentment, but presently am feeling more balanced about it. Thanks for the well wishes. It sure is a challenge.

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Whose family is at the meeting tonight?

by mamalove in

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were you a tuesday nighter or a thursday nighter for the ms?

i was a tuesday nighter...i liked it because it got it out of the way beginning of the week!.

Libelle

My fam was at the meeting last night...

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Do you know who you are?

by cyberjesus in

we spend much time trying to understand ourselves and other.

we study human behavior, psychological factors, why god created us.

bible prophecies, etc etc.

Libelle

I'm sorry, but this thread makes me think of this song... Which is also my answer in lots of ways:

We come from the fire, living in the fire
We come from the fire
Go back to the fire, turn the world around
Go back to the fire, turn the world around

We come from the water, living in the water...

We come from the mountain, living on the mountain...

Oh, oh so is life
Ah, ha so is life
Oh, oh so is life
Ah, ha so is life

{Refrain}
Do you know who I am
Do I know who you are
See we one another clearly
Do we know who we are
Oh, oh so is life
Abatiwaha, so is life
Oh, oh so is life
Abatiwaha, so is life

Water make the river, river wash the mountain
Fire make the sunlight, turn the world around

Heart is of the river, body is the mountain
Spirit is the sunlight, turn the world around

We are of the spirit, truly of the spirit
Only can the spirit turn the world around

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Broken Heart...

by brotherdan in

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some of you have read what i wrote on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/200211/1/never-wake-up.

here's the final email my wife just sent me 1 minute ago:.

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Libelle

Nik, your post gave me hope too.

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A Thank You

by Libelle in

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hey all, i haven't been posting a whole lot, but i've been reading.

i wanted to send a thank you to the majority of posters on here.

before i started digging deeper into this - i hated jws, hated any and every one i came into contact with and that did indeed spill over onto my husband.. the more i read about jw people (not the org) on this site, the more i've seen the mentality that the people in the org are cared about.

Libelle

Hey all, I haven't been posting a whole lot, but I've been reading. I wanted to send a thank you to the majority of posters on here. Before I started digging deeper into this - I hated JWs, hated any and every one I came into contact with and that did indeed spill over onto my husband.

The more I read about JW people (not the org) on this site, the more I've seen the mentality that the people in the org are cared about. That they're worth caring about, that it's not them that are the scum, but the higher ups in the org who lie and do all kinds of manipulation to get their cult running.

Now, admittedly, I'm not saying I'm going to befriend the people at The Mr's KH, BUT, it's helped me develop alot more empathy for those people. And I'm starting to look at The Mr. in a completely different light.

So thanks everyone. Thanks for your even-keeled and loving approach to the average JW member.

-Libelle

121

Broken Heart...

by brotherdan in

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friends

some of you have read what i wrote on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/200211/1/never-wake-up.

here's the final email my wife just sent me 1 minute ago:.

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Libelle

Oh Dan, I'm so sorry, your pain about this is palpable.

FWIW, and I don't know if this is any hope or not. The Mr and I have had the maybe we should separate talk a few times now (instigated by me, though, the non-JW, he has told me he will never be the instigator of us splitting - at least not directly), and we're still together. Maybe she was just in a place, in that moment, that it seemed it's time to end it. Give her time... It's possible she will come around.

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Do You Really Care About the People On Here?

by snowbird in

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how they're feeling, coping?.

well, do you?.

thanks to those who respond.. syl.

Libelle

You know, even though I don't post alot (since I never was a JW, sometimes I feel a little buttinsky), but I do care about the people here. We're all here for a reason, and many of us are coping with our various situations.

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Never Wake Up

by brotherdan in

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just got back from an awesome time in maui.

today we got a call from my fil.

my mil has been in utah for the last week or so and found out that her family past was full of "demon activity".

Libelle

CD, good advice, very good.