Posts by Libelle

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It's amazing how perceptions change over time...

by MrFreeze in

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friends

a few months ago, there was one day of the week i hated above all else.

you probably know which i'm talking about... the day of the tms and sm.

i don't know which day you had yours on, but mine was always on thursday.

Libelle

yeap, my boy is actually starting to "get sick" nearly every Thursday. I do not wonder why.

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is there more women involved with the jw's than men

by not a jw in

i keep seeing hints thrown around on this site that tends to say that they are more women involved in the jw's than men .is this true?.

I agree with Zid and Heaven, but I do go to a UU (which consists primarily of athiests, and some pagans) church, and it's mostly women there too. I think church also fits an emotional/spiritual need that maybe our culture kills in men.

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While Screaming Bible Passages, 'Ugly Betty' Actor Kills Mother With Samurai Sword

by leavingwt in

while screaming bible passages, 'ugly betty' actor kills mother with samurai sword.

police say an "ugly betty" actor held his mother hostage and then murdered her with a samurai sword while screaming bible passages tuesday in brooklyn.. .

neighbors identified the suspect as haitian-american actor michael l. brea, who has had roles on the tv series "ugly betty" and movie "step-up 3-d." he was also the face of a campaign for the energy drink coca-cola: full throttle, according to haiti internet movie database website belfim.com.. .

Libelle

The jacked up things people do on account of religion. May the poor woman rest in peace.

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Update on Jamiebowers - not sure what to think...

by sd-7 in

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friends

i just got a call from jamie this afternoon, saying she found her husband in the bathroom, not breathing.

i've not had the chance to speak to her, she left me a voice mail.

but i'm very worried.

Libelle

JB, glad to hear your husband is doing well. Hope he continues to improve. I know how stressful something like that can be.... Sending good thoughts your way.

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Quick Hello

by Libelle in

jw
friends

i haven't been online here much as i got laid off a few weeks ago.

to cushion the blow, it was due to "economic reasons" and they'd love to have me back if they (ever?

) get busy again.

Libelle

I haven't been online here much as I got laid off a few weeks ago. To cushion the blow, it was due to "economic reasons" and they'd love to have me back if they (ever?) get busy again. But, seeing as I posted from work, and don't really have "my own computer" or my own space at home (sheesh, my two year old has loved having me home, but she's kind of getting to me, haha!), I don't get much of a chance to get online. But I've got some freetime today and am at the library, so am saying hi! however, don't expect to see too much of me anymore, unless something changes drastically. boohoo.

-Libelle

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If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs

by Libelle in

it's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.

now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.

but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.

Libelle

Thank you guys. I will be back later to respond to all this. Life's a little heavy presently, and I'm just not in a mind to post much presently. But thank you for your ideas... keep them coming if you have them!

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If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs

by Libelle in

it's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.

now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.

but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.

Libelle

PSac, I've thought about and done that, but sometimes he twists it around to sound like I'm dogging his beliefs. Yeah, I'm not into manipulative, but I do get downright angry.

God, kid can't sing in a concert tonight because of "My country tis of thee" WTF? Yanno?

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If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs

by Libelle in

it's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.

now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.

but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.

Libelle

Thanks OLNS... FWIW, I have a bachelor's in ecology and minor in geology. It's a degree welllll out of use in currently (god, I haven't done anything in that field for at least 8 years), but yeah, I reckon that's a good idea. I've always had them interested in bugs and the like, but we've never talked evolution.

I'd love for them to have an alternate spiritual possibility, but the only one I have a chance with teaching anything is my youngest. I mean, I'm a UU Pagan, so I'm generally pretty easy going with what someone believes in the first place (well except absolutist and cult religions). I just want them to not be sucked into JW. And I'm sure while I'm going this direction, maybe my process could help out other UBM's with kids...

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If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs

by Libelle in

it's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.

now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.

but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.

Libelle

Thanks Ding. Yes, the kids have plenty of exposure to the Great Lie. We've talked and as far as stepkids are concerned, The Mr says it's not my place to teach them religious stuff. So any and everything I can possibly do will have to be subtle.They've only been learning it for as long as he's been in, which is about 3 years. Life was normalish before then. I'm starting to notice them (the big kids) get nervous and wary about what they should/not do.

OLNS, thanks for the comments on J-god being a personal god. That's one thing I guess I wasn't too clued in about, him being this controlling "fatherly" figure. Any ideas on how to thwart that? I do like the idea of teaching how other religions have been created and evolved. I just don't know if I can get that detailed with the steps.

Scully, yes, I take the youngest with me to all the holidays and such, however always feel guilty that the biggers cannot come along. The kids' mom is a, erm, unique situation that I'd rather not get into. Suffice it to say, clear communication is tough. She's not JW, but is another sort of high intensity religion... yay.

Keep the ideas coming!

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If you have kids who are being exposed to JW beliefs

by Libelle in

it's becoming clearer and clearer that i need to muster some sort of strategy for countering the mr's indoctrination of the kids.

now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier.

but for our youngest, i will need to think about how to teach her other things too.

Libelle

It's becoming clearer and clearer that I need to muster some sort of strategy for countering The Mr's indoctrination of the kids. Now some of these kids are stepkids, so that makes it a bit hairier. But for our youngest, I will need to think about how to teach her other things too. I do attend a church, but it's UU which means, essentially, most people seek out their own beliefs (many of my cong are atheists), which is good, but it's less structured.

But regardless, the people who know the most about JW are not the ones who're looking in from the outside, but those on the inside. Would you all help me put together some ideas on how to keep your kids thinking? How to help them ride the tide (if need be) until they're old enough to live on their own and have their own beliefs? How to keep them always thinking rather than never questioning?

Anyone game for this?