Sure, are you kidding. When I was a JW teenager I did teenage things, drank a little, tried a joint once or twice, made out with boys, well maybe a little more....I never thought that elders were ENTITLED to know anything about my private life.
mamalove
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Do you know any JW's who commited a 'sin' in the past but never confessed it to the elders?
by XPeterX inwhat did he/she do?did you cover it up?were the elders ever informed?i know a jw friend who gambled a few times and never told the boe,neither did i..
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Alot has Changed and I'm going BACK
by Butterflyleia85 ini bet people has forgotten me but thats ok because i know they have helped me a lot on here.. .
anyways i think the last time i been on here i mentioned my jw sister not going to my wedding.
for those that do remember my story, the wedding was beautiful on the beach in key west, fl!
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mamalove
Just take it slow. Think about being true to yourself. Will you like what you did a year from now? Will you feel like a phoney when you have to talk to your family and tell white lies about going to meetings, or fading? What makes you think they will still welcome you with open arms if you fade? Do you want CONDITIONAL love from your family based on 3 ELDERS judgment on whether or not you are repentent? 3 older men deciding how your family dictates your care, love and treatment? You know to make it back in, you are going to have to fake it till you make it...and then how do you fade out again? Do you think your conscience will get confused and you might become under the "spell" again and have all of those unworthy, I am gonna die in armageddon feelings? ((HUGS)) darling! Let us know how it goes, and think about this seriously.
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For those who were partakers
by mamalove inwhat made you think you were supposed to drink the wine and eat the bread?
if you left the org, did you still feel like you were going to heaven?.
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mamalove
This is interesting. As someone raised a JW, but who has left, from what I can tell, those who were/are JW's seemed to be questioned if they partook?! Did you feel like the elders were making you feel like a whackadoo for partaking, like someone who was a little unstable? That is what I am getting from some of you.
I wonder if there are any JW loyalist elders on here who would comment as to what makes a partaker legit in their eyes, enough so they don't feel the need to shepard and confirm they should be drinking and eating? It is amazing to me the acceptable amount of judgment that is widely accepted and promoted! Makes me glad I left.
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For those who were partakers
by mamalove inwhat made you think you were supposed to drink the wine and eat the bread?
if you left the org, did you still feel like you were going to heaven?.
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mamalove
What made you think you were supposed to drink the wine and eat the bread? If you left the org, did you still feel like you were going to heaven?
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A You a Ward of the Watch Tower?
by cameo-d inwhat made jesus 'perfect'?.
he followed the laws of his own conscience.
we were all born with the innate ability to distinguish between right and wrong, good and evil.. .
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mamalove
The thing about writing a letter of dissassociation, is that if you want the general members of the cong to know YOU made the choice to leave, the elders will not broadcast that. They will just say from the platform "Joe Smith is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." So its the same as being DF or DA in everyone elses eyes. Personally I would rather people know that I pulled the plug and not them doing it.
I could care less how they all think of me. Sometimes they tell my little girls who have to go with my ex to the meetings "oh tell your mom we said hi and we miss her, and to come back to the meetings." But I think that is just ridiculous to say that stuff to a 4 and 6 year old, they should keep their mouths shut. I digress.
The point I am making is that you have to decide how much the "label" will impact your life. I quit meetings cold turkey and I am treated like I am DF'd. But I don't really care. I would rather my kids not grow up with the stigma of a DF'd mother, but as they get older they will learn that it is just the label the JW's put on people as they see fit. Good luck!
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Voluptuous Vixens Looking to Lose!
by StAnn inthanks to beks for the title.. i can't stand being a fatty-fat-fatty anymore.
my son is getting married, allegedly next fall, and i want to look good for the wedding.
and i want to look good for myself.
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mamalove
When I want to trim up a bit after having too much for a week or two in a row, I do Jorge Cruise's belly fat plan. It is amazingly easy and it worked pretty fast. It is like South Beach, but I thought more simple. Look him up. He was on Oprah and is very popular now.
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The Greatest Lesson the Watchtower Ever Taught Me
by jamiebowers inthe greatest lesson that the watchtower has taught me is to give the love that has been taken from me.
our mother shuns my brother and me to the extreme.
just this morning she told me on the phone from her hospital bed that we will have to learn her diagnosis through the grapevine.. she wasn't always like this.
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mamalove
I really enjoyed your post. I too am in your situation and feel it is my time to give back since I have been helped out a great deal by other family and wonderful non-Jw people who are amazing. I hope my children grow up to realize that there are really good people out there. I am so sorry about the situation with your mom. You are not numb to the pain, but rather accept it and don't let it soak into your being and effect your life to the extent you are crippled like so many struggle with. ((HUGS))
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Ray Franz books hard to find
by mamalove inso i guess his books are collectors items!
if anyone has any they would sell me or loan me, please pm me.
thanks!.
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mamalove
So I guess his books are collectors items! If anyone has any they would sell me or loan me, please PM me. Thanks!
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why do ex-jw's talk so much....
by bittersweet inso my husband ( who is a baptised witness who no longer attends meetings and pretty much doesn't believe any more ) asked me last night why do so many ex-jw's feel the need to keep talking about the religion even when they have been out of it for years.
i told him that in my case i still talk about it because i feel i lost so much of my life to them and i am still upset about it.
also that many people have lost families and livlihoods, etc.
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mamalove
Because it feels good to talk about it. That is my take. It is interesting, shocking, healing. So many layers to it all. Ex LDS and Mormons, Scientoligists, all talk about it too, their members have written many books on their exits. Good reading, good parallels.
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New elders' manual - a few more details
by sir82 inper a recent boe letter:.
-- new manual will be softcover.
-- elders can keep their old elder manual if they choose.
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mamalove
Wait a minute, what is this no affection or holding hands during a prayer or meeting? Come on, isnt that the time when MS who are fighting with their wives get to try and make-up without saying sorry?