I'm not aware of what this "Big News" is. Metatron or someone else, please brief me.
Rescripting_myself
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Blood Issue: Will Literature Be Destroyed?
by metatron ini understand that one immediate effect of the "big news" about the watchtower's possible liability on blood transfusion will be.
that elders are ordered to destroy all copies of previous directives on blood.
however, this limited response seems inadequate.
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Is it always ethical to try to help someone get out?
by wanderlustguy inis it ever better or ethical to let someone go on believing in the truth even though it is a lie?
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Rescripting_myself
I've given a lot of thought to this question. I don't think it is ALWAYS ethical principally because not everyone can handle the trauma that can be occasioned by the realization.
In my case when I learned the truth about about the basis of my then JW faith following a deliberate search of the internet, I entered a most painful phase of my life and though I'm far much better psycho-emotionally than immediately after I came to the realization in Aug 2000, I've still some way to go 5 years down the line before I can claim to feel fully healthy. Living in the so called third world, I've not had any support that I can talk of from direct personal interaction with other ex-JWs.
I've also seen the pain that my assisting my parents and siblings out has caused some of them especially my parents and most of all my father whom I suspect is full of recriminations for having gotten the rest of us involved from 1969 and for having wasted his life and long periods of ours.
So my 2 cents worth of opinion is that as much as is prudent, we should do the most we can to assist loved ones out the WT's chains but with the caveat that the decision to or not to try and help any particular individual should be taken only after very careful consideration with the overiding concern being the overall and long term welfare of the person we are considering to help.
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Long time apostate, first time poster.
by mtbatoon in.
just found this site today and as well as being amused, concerned and shocked at some of the stuff i?ve found here, reading the bios and posts of other ex jw?s has in a way made me feel a little bit less alone in the world.
don?t get me wrong, i?m not an emotionally scared loner, it?s like i?ve finally found someone else to stand outside morning assemble with.
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Rescripting_myself
Welcome Mt. It was interesting to chat with u.
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My Gay Life
by joelbear init seems millenia ago that homosexuals dared not declare that fact about them out loud for fear of being imprisoned, beaten to death or at least ostracized by society.
true, some are still ostracized, some are still beaten but more and more they are simply becoming a part of the social fabric of families, communities and society as a whole.. was it just 1969 that a handful of drag queens decided enough was enough and refused to meekly be led off to jail for the night simply for socializing with each other in a bar in new york city.
i was 11 years old when that happened and was just beginning to understand that i myself was a homosexual.
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Rescripting_myself
Joel, that's a moving and awesome story. It demonstrates what freedom to accept one's identity and to choose the lifestyle that conforms with that identity is. The freedom to be who one is without interference from others especially because being oneself is an inalienable right of each of us. Nobody has any right to prescribe an identity for another person much less the right to try and require, coerce or force another to assume the prescribed identity.
I'm happy for u for having found and accepted yourself against great odds!
Though my problems with JWism had nothing to do with my sexual orientation, in principle I suffered similar hurt in that my deepest feelings of what one's vocation in life should be was at great variance with what the wtbts taught. I did whatever I could to see and to do things the wtbts way which resulted in massive cognitive dissonance of which I was not consciously of. This led to severe depression, the effects of which I'm still struggling with nearly 4 years after I gained conscious awareness of what had happened to me and said goodbye to JWism.
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Is Watchman guilty of the same "sin"?
by Schizm inas many of you likely know, the owner of the e-watchman website constantly charges the wts with having committed spiritual fornication with the united nations organization (the so-called ngo affair).
i would like to ask you all a question in order to find out your opinion as to whether or not watchman has done a near equivalent thing that he charges the wts with having done.
most of you were probably aware that watchman once advertised the e-watchman site on this site here (jw.com).
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Rescripting_myself
I agree with u Schizm. Any self-professing JW and especially one professing to b of the "anointed" wud never use what he wud consider an "apostate" site to advertise his own site or for any other purpose for that matter. So either e-watchman is not a true-believing JW or he is an extremely hypocritical one. It could also be that he is very mentally sick and in need of psychiatric/psychological attention in which case we need to empathise/sympathise with him instead of condemning him.
As to Corvin, I would leave him alone. No need to quarrel. It does not contribute to ua qn.
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US Christian fundamentalists are driving Bush's Middle East policy
by Bryan init's all about texas!.
their beliefs are bonkers, but they are at the heart of power .
us christian fundamentalists are driving bush's middle east policy .
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Rescripting_myself
This sounds very wacky almost beyond belief. It's down-hearting to imagine that some of the most powerful men on earth ascribe to such wacky beliefs and views.
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The colour of grey
by beaker ing,day all from sydney.
i've been dropping in to the board since being d'fd a month ago and have been very encouraged by the posts and they way everyone has been able to move on since leaving the collective.. being a 5th generation, it was always very hard for me to imagine life life outside the truman show bubble.
having a huge extended family who are all believers means that i now have virtually nil social contacts.. soon to be divorced, the only contact i have with my past life is weekend visits from my 7 year old boy and 9 year old girl.
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Rescripting_myself
Welcome Beaker! Seeing what u have seen as reflected in ua poem was very painful 4 me.But three and a half years down the line my life is much richer and much more normal than when I came to "my senses" ( using wbts terminology). By the way have u been to Timothy Campbell's web-site? I found it very useful when I was at the stage u r in now.
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the most inconseqvent rule among JWs
by happy man ini can take one exampel.. we all now about the polyci to convickt sexabuser ot pedofiles,you must have two wittneses to what happend if not we must putt it i n jehovas hand,.
but if you sleep over together before you are married, you dont need any wittneses att al to be dfd or reeprofed, even if it is a third person ther it is an dfd thing says the elder book.enen if it is an third person ther.. why it is so important widh two wittneses to judge sexabuser, but when it comes to peopel as doing nothing only sleep over in the same department it need no wittneses att al to bad things happend to dfd them.. so you can be harder judged if you only sleep in a bed than if you rape chilrden, or sex abuse them in any way,this is not so unusal, i have among my family peopel as have been judged fore this minor thing, sleeping over widhuot doing anything, the punishment was totaly reeprof.. i have also exampel from elder as have use girls under 15 fore porniea, and the punishment was only steep down as an elder.. some very hard things to deal widh fore mee and some alse as now this.. i can also ask one more qestion, wt have told us to tell evrythnig bad we do at once, but if we hide it fore a long time, how will it effeckt the puishment?.
softer or harder , intresting to see what your answer on this is, i new it and will tell later.. ..
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Rescripting_myself
Beli, I can't agree more with you. I find it a waste of time and emotion to try and make sense of some of the wbts rules. They simply do not make any. The only (of course not the only!) way to look at them is what Beli has said, -they are manmade.
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crisis of conscience....please help
by boa inallo folks.... .
please tell me if you think a jehovah's witness could read crisis of concience and continue to be a jw after finishing it?
since i have heard vague stories that there are some who have continued to be a jw, please relate the story and how you think this could be.
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Rescripting_myself
It is difficult to comprehend how one read c of c and remain a JW from the heart. One can of course remain in the org for other reasons such as family but in their heart not be a JW which I find understable. Such a person would just be going through the motions devoid of conviction and dedication until such a time as they can comfortably cut links with wbts.
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research article on Jehovah's Witnesses
by Stephen Cox indear friends,.
this is to announce a long research article that i have published in the latest (sept-oct) issue of "liberty" magazine.
("liberty" is a libertarian intellectual journal and is available at barnes and noble, borders, etc., or from po box 1181, port townsend wa 98368. its price is $5.
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Rescripting_myself
Any chance of having the article on the web soon so those of us in the third world who cannot access Barnes ... can get a chance of reading it? I live in Nairobi, Kenya.
Rescipting_myself