Posts by Ding

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

Ding

Sue,

Please realize that posting on this forum is also a disfellowshiping offense.

Do you believe that you should now come forward to the elders and confess that as well?

That would almost guarantee that you won't be reinstated.

The elders will consider that to be far worse than physical fornication.

The vast majority of people who posted on this thread would strongly disagree that the JC made the right decision, and they would advise you to get as far away from the WT as you can without seeking reinstatement.

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Do we blame the Governing Body too much?

by no-zombie in

i'd like to start this post with a part from the movie 'v for vendetta'.

here in a dystopian state, the main character named v, explains why things have gone so bad ....

those who do not want us to speak.

Ding

Samcats wrote, "It is foolish to expect anything else from an organization run by humans. If the complainers here were in charge it would be just as imperfect."

Imperfect humans run every religious organization on earth, but they don't all claim to be God's sole channel of communication.

Nor do they all insist on being believed and obeyed without question.

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If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?

by TxNVSue2023 in

even though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).

i still belive this is the truth.

i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.

Ding

The OP seems to equate "the true religion" with an organization.

That's a big mistake.

But even if you conclude it must mean that, then please read Captives of a Concept by Don Cameron.

It completely debunks the WT's claim that Jesus was impressed with the spiritual food it was dispensing in 1918-1919 and therefore chose to appoint it to be his faithful and discreet slave.

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

Ding

Before you apply for reinstatement, you would do well to investigate the history of the organization to determine whether it is really "the truth" and "Jehovah's organization" as it claims.

I suspect you have some doubts about that or you wouldn't have posted on this forum, but maybe I'm wrong about that...

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How exactly did Jesus choose the organization in 1919?

by Gman2001 in

did he appear to someone?.

Ding

Great question.

It's similar to the questions:

1. If the faithful and discreet slave is really Jehovah's channel of communication in these last days, exactly how does he communicate with THEM?

2. If the faithful and discreet slave is really Jehovah's channel of communication (in a way that no other religious organization is), why have they gotten so many things wrong that needed to be changed?

3. If the revelations the faithful and discreet slave receive from Jehovah are progressive truths (getting brighter and brighter), wouldn't they start out as true but incomplete rather than as totally false?

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Is JW.org going Broke?

by Vanderhoven7 in

https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

Ding

Remember how the WT used to boast that they don't have to ask for funds because the brothers cheerfully and willingly contribute?

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Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

Ding

Adopting the "GB are just humble brothers whose only fault is their excessive zeal and enthusiasm" defense...

Never mind how many lives they ruin in the process.

Never mind how they require all JWs to believe everything they say or get DFd because of their independent thinking.

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

Ding

The WT doesn't believe that man will actually be with Jesus in paradise.

They teach that he will be on earth and that Jesus will always be in heaven.

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[GOOD NEWS] My PIMI wife became PIMQ!

by psyco in

after a few years, unexpectedly, my pimi wife became pimq.. today she even asked me a question that i found very interesting:.

if god has been anointing women to be part of the kings and priests over humankind, why cannot they currently rule and guide 8 million people being part of the governing body (acquiring experience in that role as well)?.

Ding

You can tell that it's a fiction.

The GB neither know nor care who the "anointed remnant" are.

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Only baptised JWs will make it?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

Ding

If the WT said that today people who just didn't know enough would make it, then it would be better to keep them ignorant by not going to their doors.

Moreover, JWs would be in a worse position than a completely ignorant person next door because JWs might prove unworthy and not make it.

Can't have any of that.

So the WT must have it that only JWs will make it.

That not only makes it essential to be a JW, but it heightens the urgency for JWs to witness to as many people as possible so as not to incur bloodguilt.

Fear! Guilt!

Do more! Do more!! Do more!!!