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Is the AGM today?

by hamsterbait in

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anybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.

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factfinder

Thank you Absolam! Did they mention anything about a new peak of publishers?

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2014 AGM announcement rumour

by yadda yadda 2 in

from barbara anderson, former watchtower headquarters researcher and writer, on another recent thread:.

it is expected that at the 2014 annual meeting, usually held the first saturday in october, will serve watchtower leaders well to cover-up all the 100-years of prophetic nonsense.

rumor has it they are going to celebrate their 100-years of announcing the kingdom in an adroit way by featuring a move of "great" significance to do with the expansion of the governing body to an "apostolic" 12 or some other fantasy idea.. .

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St George- its funny you mention Mark. That is exactly what I thought when they introduced him as a helper to the gb.

But Mark was not annointed when he studied with me, if he is now, ( its academic anyway, the teachings are fake), then the 144,000 is not literal.

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2014 AGM announcement rumour

by yadda yadda 2 in

from barbara anderson, former watchtower headquarters researcher and writer, on another recent thread:.

it is expected that at the 2014 annual meeting, usually held the first saturday in october, will serve watchtower leaders well to cover-up all the 100-years of prophetic nonsense.

rumor has it they are going to celebrate their 100-years of announcing the kingdom in an adroit way by featuring a move of "great" significance to do with the expansion of the governing body to an "apostolic" 12 or some other fantasy idea.. .

factfinder

I wonder if the brother who studied with me, who was one of the speakers at the convention and was introduced as a helper to the gb will be appointed as a member of the gb? But he was not one of Jesus' brothers back then and the gb must be.

Of course, he could claim that he was annointed more recently. They can say whatever they want. I thought about that when he was introduced as a helper to the gb.

If so, Jehovah changed his mind and annointed him? The 144,000 just keeps on growing!

Just my guess anyway based on what Londo111 suggested.

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144,000 Jewish Christians

by Chris Tann in

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objectivetruth-

Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah. Peter could not continue in Judaism and yet at the same time believe Jesus is the Messiah.

For one thing, the Jewish Messiah has two human parents, and does not become a sacrifice to cover other's sins as the Jewish religion teaches no-one else can die for your sins.

Judaism also teaches that God does not want or accept human sacrifice.

The Jewish Messiah will not be a redeemer for people's sins.

But Jesus said he was there to die for his followers sins and would be sacrificed. A follower of Judaism would not have accepted Jesus as Messiah.

I am Jewish by birth as are all of my blood relatives. But while I was a witness, therefore a' Christian" my relatives did not consider me to be "Jewish" because I was a "Christian"!

Peter could not have accepted and believed that Jesus would die for his (and other's sins) if he really believed in Judaism.

Also, the Jewish Messiah is not "the son of God". But Jesus taught that he was. Peter beleived that.

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Lurker no more

by DaleRivers in

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hi folks:.

i've been lurking here all summer and i finally decided to take the plunge and join you all.. i'm a single, 53 y/o black woman living in the nyc metro area (usa).

i was brought up around jws:mom's mom, mom and my favorite auntie were all in.

factfinder

Welcome DaleRivers!

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144,000 Jewish Christians

by Chris Tann in

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factfinder

A person cannot be a "Jewish" Christian! Both religions are too different and are at odds.

A Jew can be a "Christian" which is a religion, but he will no longer be considered "Jewish" if he becomes a Christian. He is still a "Jew" if he was born one, but is no longer "Jewish" since his religion is now "Christian".

As Designs mentioned, the Christian teaching of Messiah is not the same as the Jewish teaching of Messiah. They are two completly different religions and concepts.

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JW.org statistics and the decline in first world countries.

by OneEyedJoe in

cross posting from another thread.

it seems that i might not be the only nerd here that's interested in statistics like this so maybe it deserves it's own topic.. so i was playing around with google.com/trends with some jw related search terms.

i found the results a bit surprising, and certainly interesting, so i figured i'd share.. first off, the link to what i tried.. one of the most surprising things that stood out was the regional interest.

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OneEyedJoe- I don't even know who is still in the English cong that I knew, but you may be right. Two congs both with shrinking attendance replaced by one decent sized cong.

Still I wonder if anyone was concerned when the consoladation took place. I remember when the cong first had to split because it had grown too big. I'm sure though that many from back then have died, left the org, or moved away.

With around 100,000 people in this town you'd think there would be more witnesses. I have not seen any jws going door to door across the street ever in the nearly 27 years living here and it has been many years since I saw any on my side of the street.

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JW.org statistics and the decline in first world countries.

by OneEyedJoe in

cross posting from another thread.

it seems that i might not be the only nerd here that's interested in statistics like this so maybe it deserves it's own topic.. so i was playing around with google.com/trends with some jw related search terms.

i found the results a bit surprising, and certainly interesting, so i figured i'd share.. first off, the link to what i tried.. one of the most surprising things that stood out was the regional interest.

factfinder

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

I remember hearing at the CA in the 90's how meeting attendence in the US among Spanish congregations was exceeding 100%, while attendence in English congs was in the 80-something to 90-something percent level. No doubt the trend has continued and attendence in English congs has continued to decline.

There were 3 congs in the town I live in when I last attended 9 years ago. One Spanish and two English. The Spanish was the biggest.

Now the Spanish cong is still there but only one English cong. Jehovah is bringing in the increase! LOL!

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NEW 'Bible Teach' book... to be released at Annual Meeting?

by Calebs Airplane in

not sure if this has been mentioned on this board yet, but i just heard from a fairly reliable source that the annual meeting will discuss, among other things, major changes in the 'bible teach' book.

has anyone else heard this??.

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factfinder

It will be interesting to see what is changed and if it is anything major.

I wonder if it will get a new cover? It should to avoid confusion with older (old truth) editions.

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WatchTower selling printing Press on alibaba.com

by TruthHub in

a mr. noel steensen (google him) selling bethels printing press in new york on alibaba in china... what about that?:.

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http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/man-roland-lithoman-iii-printing-press_107050287.html.

factfinder

This press was for sale years ago. I thought it was already sold. It was one of the 3 in Wallkill from 1986 that they sold. They use the 2 faster presses 16 hours a day.

I'm confused as to if they want to increase production at Wallkill. The past two years the new convention books were printed in Germany. They mention "adjustments" to the printery are underway.

But they DID order new bindery equipment in 2011, perhaps for the new bibles.