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At what point will there be more ex-JWs than active JWs?

by NewYork44M in

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given the flow out of the organization and the inability to find new recruits, there should be a tipping point where the ex's out number the actives.

has there been any discussion related to this topic?.

because many within the organization are not true believers and are in various stages of exit this calculation is some what complicated.

factfinder

It will be interesting to see what the reports are for this service year and the next few to come. Thus far there has been no mention in the km of any new peaks in the US this service year. And I remember when highlights of the new service report were mentioned at the annual meeting. None were mentioned this year, were they?

Steve2- I also was always interested in the statistics and used to use the monthly fs report in the km to come up with the total mags, hrs, rvs, baptisms and studies each month as well as the ave and peak pubs and pios!

I even used the distribution figures of magazines placed to estimate the total number printed and when I compared the YB figures I was always very close. I always wanted there to be new peaks in pubs.

Now it does not matter as much and I'm curious to see if we will see decreases again in the total publishers and other features of the report.

Tomorrow jw.org may post the Jan. 1, 2015 w online-it should have the updated printing per issue figure. I wonder if 2014 saw any significant increases?

I know there have been many becoming inactive in recent years, in my area we had 2 English lang. congregations at the kh but now there is only one.

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At what point will there be more ex-JWs than active JWs?

by NewYork44M in

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friends

given the flow out of the organization and the inability to find new recruits, there should be a tipping point where the ex's out number the actives.

has there been any discussion related to this topic?.

because many within the organization are not true believers and are in various stages of exit this calculation is some what complicated.

factfinder

steve2-

What do you mean by "a massive hemorrhage of active publishers-in the wake of the 1975 fiasco"?

I began studying in 1976 and saw the congregation growing. According to the 1978 and 1979 ybs, there was a 1% decrease in 1977 and a 1.4% decrease in 1978. Those were the only years where the total publishers decreased. To me, those decreases are far from "a massive hemorrahage".

Here in the US, 1977 and 1978 each saw decreases of almost 3%. Then things picked up. The cong I was in saw steady growth.

Even if the number of x-jws is more than the number of jws, what does that mean? Why would it matter?

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What happens after a couple of thousand years of paradise?

by Hortensia in

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my guess is, god gets bored.. armageddon's over, the earth has been cleansed, only his sycophants have survived.

all is perfect.

after a millenium or three god gets bored.

factfinder

Actually I think god (if there is one) moved on long ago, creating other things in distant galaxies we will never discover. He is much more interested in creating new worlds, universes, etc then he is with paying much attention to us disobedient humans.

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GB Doesnt Believe in 1914 Anymore My reasoning

by thedepressedsoul in

i have heard a lot of talk over the last year or so if the gb will eventually ditch 1914 and some have even made the claim that most, if not all of the gb do not believe in 1914. ive given this some thought and in the past i wasnt sure.

this annual meeting puts 100%, without a doubt in my mind that the gb do not believe in 1914. id even go as far to say that they talked about that date and have a game plan in mind.. here is why i feel this way:.

there were a lot of changes with the parables at this annual meeting.

factfinder

marked

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Article in Lansing, NY Paper: Local Farmers Concerned About Kingdom Farm Sale

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.lansingstar.com/news-page/11090-local-farmers-concerned-about-kingdom-farm-sale.

but the soil is not that good.

"this town has the best soil of all the towns in the county," said roth.

factfinder

VM44- The wts still operates its farms, to provide low cost food for its workers. There are 3 wt farms totaling over 2,000 acres and the 600+ acre dairy farm in Patterson where the wec is.

What they discontinued were the hog and chicken operations.

Certain other branches also have farms.

They never speak of Mountain Farm so it must have been sold and I knew Kingdom Farm was on sale, did not realize it had not sold yet.

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How many of the GB helpers are "anointed"?

by Nostromo in

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according to this list there are 29 helpers at the moment: https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/jehovahs-witnesses-governing-body-committees.jpg.

i wonder how many of these are "anointed"?

all the current seven gb members were helpers first and then appointed to be gb members.

factfinder

The 1/15/15 w is trying to discourage witnesses from partaking- the 144,000 cannot be literal if people keep partaking.

Mark Noumair was not annointed when he studied with me, so he cannot be now, otherwise the 144,000 is not literal and what he taught me was a lie.

Of course I know it is all fake, but if he really believes in it, he will NOT claim to be annointed.

Maybe the gb will remove being annointed as a required qualification for being on the gb.

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To be or not to be Anointed: it's all a bunch of lies and make belief anyways

by goingthruthemotions in

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i always thought that when someone says they are anointed or the anointed....it has and still does conjour up the image of dungeons and dragons.

all fantasy!!!!!!.

it's all make belief and bulls&&t !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

factfinder

The 1/15/15 w has an article warning witnesses not to partake at the memorial if they are not really annointed. I know it is fake, but the society is trying to discourage people from partaking.

The 144,000 is not so literal anymore, is it?

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