Rutherford bought into the other sheep being a heavenly class until 1935 when he changed his mind about the destiny of this alleged secondary group.
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Only One Destiny for All Christians
by cofty inthe following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
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JW Elder Swan Sermon
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat happens when an elder learns the tatt.. https://youtu.be/tkyujamfziq.
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Dozy...thank you for posting the background to the audio. I couldn't believe that they didn't shut him down before he gave a word to the children.
I wonder how he is doing today in terms of family. Hope they are broken free from WT bondage.
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I.B.S.A. members were witnesses of Jesus Christ.-JW`s members are witnesses of Jehovah.
by smiddy3 inis there a difference ?
i believe so ,and a very big difference.one that harmonises with the new testament in bearing witness to jesus and his kingdom and one that amounts to a new gospel bearing witness to jehovah and his kingdom something that is condemned in the bible.. c.t.russell started the magazine called "zions watchtower and herald of christs presence" and its emphasis was on bearing witness about jesus christ and his kingdom ,of course he got many things wrong ,but he was focused on jesus & his kingdom with what the new testament is all about.. j.f.rutherford in his wisdom decided to change the heading of the watchtower to " the watchtower announcing jehovah`s kingdom" a phrase / term / doctrine that is not in the new testament and takes away the importance and role that jesus christ has in bringing people to god.phil.2:9-11. nowhere in the christian greek scriptures / new testament are followers of jesus christ instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,nowhere there is not one scripture that instructs them to do so.. however in the christian greek scriptures / new testament there are over twenty scriptures whereby christians are told to be witnesses of jesus.. and it was by divine providence that followers of christ were to be called christians .acts 11:26 , not jehovah`s witnesses.. do jw`s even know what it means " by divine providence " ?.
the jw`s use isaiah 43:10-12 an old testament scripture to justify calling themselves jehovah`s witnesses,however that was applied to the israelites back then ,did they adopt the name jehovah`s witnesses ?
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Vanderhoven7
Yes, Russell advanced that Jesus was entitled to real worship. It was in 1954 that the Society limited Jesus to obeisance or relative worship.
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Can someone help with an OPEN OFFICE question please?
by The Fall Guy ini've only recently started using this programme.
it does exactly what i need, but one thing i don't like about it is this:.
when i type out more than one page, it displays them on the screen as side by side - instead of sequentially below each other.. can anyone tell me how to change the way the documents are displayed?.
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Vanderhoven7
You must have a large screen monitor. With your mouse you can drag the print features on the very right towards the center and it will block the second page from view.
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JW Elder Swan Sermon
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat happens when an elder learns the tatt.. https://youtu.be/tkyujamfziq.
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What happens when an elder learns the TATT.
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Just one foot in...
by Jofi_Wofo in...with one foot out.. *deep breath*.
from day one, i've felt like i was one foot out of this religion, but it took me until over a decade to reach the point where i am ready to move on.
i'm a newly registered user to this site.
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Vanderhoven7
Welcome to the forum Jofi!!! I trust you will be encouraged here in your faith and that we will be blessed by your experience and knowledge.
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Only One Destiny for All Christians
by cofty inthe following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
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Excellent article Cofty. Thank you.
True, there is no such thing as a Christian who is not born again or anointed. And all of Matthew 5 (Beatitudes) apply to the anointed.
However, I don't see the New Testament ruling out a hope for the unrighteous post resurrection. It seems to me that the nations will still exist in an earthly setting being ruled with a rod of iron during the millennium period.
The only ones I don't see a scriptural hope for are those who have sinned against the Holy Spirit.
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The Simpson's APU is now NOT politically correct...
by The Fall Guy in...so he's being cut from the the programme.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51158261.
the world is going bonkers!
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Vanderhoven7
Talking about being politically, socially and morally incorrect-insensitive, forget Simpsons, try Family Guy. I can't stomach for than 5 seconds of his nonsense.
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Who make up the new memorial partakers?
by jwfacts inwhen the doctrine regarding 1935 being the close of the calling was done away with in 2007, it was not unexpected to see the number rise.
over the next few years it went from around 8,500 to 10,500. this seemed to indicate that there were a couple of thousand people that may have felt they had the calling all along, but too shy to profess it.
for the 30 year period between the mid 1978 and 2007, parktakers had barely dropped.
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The answer is that Jesus words are Spirit and they are life. His body and blood are to be consumed means that we must personally appropriate by faith that his body was broken for us and for our healing and that his blood alone cleanses us from sin.
This metaphorical view is developed more fully at
http://dougenick.blogspot.com/2009/09/on-eating-body-and-drinking-blood-of.html
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New JW Scripture rebuttal section on readJW.info
by Jake101 inhi, we’ve added a quick reference scripture rebuttal section on the readjw.info site.
we hope it’s useful when discussing these scriptures with a jw.. .
if you can think of additional jw scriptures we should add then please just let us know with a post here or via the contact form on the site,.
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Vanderhoven7
I suggested a rebuttal on acts 15.