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  Millennium Promises

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone have wts quotations showing that the great crowd members will only be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the millennium?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Thanks guys! This is exactly what I was looking for.
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  Millennium Promises

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone have wts quotations showing that the great crowd members will only be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the millennium?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Does anyone have WTS quotations showing that the Great Crowd members will only be declared righteous and receive everlasting life at the close of the Millennium?
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  Watchtower admits false prophesy in Court of Law!

  by digderidoo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a false prophesy was promulgated?

  q. it had to be accepted by jehovah's witnesses?

  q. error?

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  Unity is more important than truth. Everyone must believe lies to remain a Jehovah's Witness.
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  What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?

  by devout_no_more in

  1. social
  2. current

  first of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.

  i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".

  frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Examine the record. The Watchtower has been 100% wrong interpreting biblical prophecy. Why should that change. Just more nonsensical, baseless prophetic speculation.
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  What do you make of this recent article regarding the United Nations stance towards overriding religions of the world on certain matters?

  by devout_no_more in

  1. social
  2. current

  first of all, this is my first post here on the forums even though i have been registered now for some time.

  i have been faded from the jehovah's witness religion for many years now, but only recently within the past year or so gotten quite serious about it - crisis of conscience by ramond franz really kicked things off for me personally.. anyway, my wife, parents, step-sister and her husband and my half-brother are all still active jw's, so i am still exposed to them, and this is also the reason why i'm still "faded".

  frankly i'd probably just as soon disassociate myself without the threat of being shunned.

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  Devout-no-more

  Great introductory post. Thanks for sharing where you are at the moment.

  Let me be first to welcome you to the forum and wish you God's best for your future.

  This is a great place to continue shedding some of that infernal Watchtower indoctrination.

  Vander
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  What is this forum for?

  by Kate14 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm new.. my first post here asking for a little support was deleted by myself due to the frosty and rude replies i received.

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  i don't actually understand what this forum is for if it is filled with hostile people.. little confused.. why is everyone here?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Kate,

  I hear your plea for help. You don't know how close you are to the Kingdom of God. He thinks you are wonderful btw. Stick it our for a bit longer and you will be encouraged.
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  Hello

  by BoogerMan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  not a lot to say, except that i studied with jw's then gave up when i realised it wasn't the truth as they call it.. the ordinary jw's are generally nice people, but their elders are mostly little dictators from what i saw.

  look forward to meeting people here who are less judgemental..

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  Vanderhoven7

  Welcome to the forum Bman!

  Glad you realized early that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is anything but the truth. What got you studying with them? Any other family members involved?

  Looking forward to hearing more from you as you feel led to share.
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  Vanderhoven7

  MMM

  The choice comes first logically. The choice causes the pre-knowledge, not the other way around. If you choose differently, God would know that choice. But you still had the free will to make the choice.
  

  I think you summarize the argument rather nicely. One reason I am against Calvinism is precisely because it denies free will

  https://youtu.be/wvdwjXM6MN4
  
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  Venting: I absolutly dispise the JW religion with all my heart

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i absolutly hate the jw religion.

  i hate the fact that my wife whom i love with all my heart is so brainwashed by them.

  i hate them pos's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  Vanderhoven7

  I hate the religion also. The humble sheeple I have great sympathy for. They know not what they profess.
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  Fading

  by Cordelia18 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi i was on here a few years ago, i ended up caving to family pressure and returning to the borg i've since married and have 2 children .

  all the reasons i returned are still here, my parents are elderly and i really don't want to hurt them but i just can't do it anymore i need to leave before my kids are brainwashed, i need to be clever this time .

  last time i was dfed and became dependant on drink i am in aa and sober now and learning the true meaning of sprituality i know without a doubt that it is a dangerous cult, but i need some tips on fading, its so hard when i want to shout from the roof tops how blind they are.

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  Vanderhoven7

  I am glad both you and your husband are awake. COVID provides the perfect scenario for you to start your fade.

  Theocratic Warfare Suggestions:

  First step...change your phone number and have your new number blocked. Also change your email accounts and be selective about who you write to.

  I'm sure you will soon get plenty of good advice about how to plan your fade from forum members who have already successfully faded.