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How do JWs view the Ransom?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
looking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a jws perspective..
Vanderhoven7

Nicely explained. Thank you Cofty.
Truthbeknown...OK so that's how they make this distinction....even though it is not biblical since the first promise of a Saviour was made to Eve almost immediately after the pair had sinned.
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Does Anybody Here Sympathize With The Looters That Cause Destruction?
by minimus in
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2. friends
i realize some here are diehard democrats.

whether you are democrat, republican or independent, do you support any of these looters that cause mayhem and destruction for their cause?

i have heard some people sympathize with these law breakers saying they understand why they do what they do and leave it at that.. of course i wonder how they would feel if their own property was burnt or stolen or destroyed..
Vanderhoven7

I believe the rumors of George's death are greatly exaggerated.
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How do JWs view the Ransom?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
looking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a jws perspective..
Vanderhoven7

Thanks for the clarification Steel, Cofty, Carmichael and Joen.
I still don't understand how all Witnesses happily apply the ransom to themselves when they don't see themselves in the New Covenant arrangement and are without the benefits of the blood atonement.
On top of that they see Adam as eternally lost despite the fact of the ransom "payment" was allegedly made for Adam and race.
Any ideas?
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How do JWs view the Ransom?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
looking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a jws perspective..
Vanderhoven7

Looking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a JWs perspective.
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Watchtower Society organization functions as the only spokesman on earth for Jehovah...Wait! There may be others
by RULES & REGULATIONS in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
praise jehovah with his people.

w73 7/1 pp.

4 consider, too, the fact that jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by god’s holy spirit or active force.
Vanderhoven7

Jackson promised to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth under oath to Jehovah. Instead he chose to bare false witness and mislead the court.
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The last part of the last days 1967
by Fadeaway1962 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
ts lett just repeated from this watchtower.

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Vanderhoven7

April 1, 1967 Watchtower page 197, par 6
Lett just repeated from this watchtower.
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The last part of the last days 1967
by Fadeaway1962 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
ts lett just repeated from this watchtower.

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Vanderhoven7

Great find Fadeaway@
Nowwhat .... just highlight both pic and text and hit the copy button on your phone or control-c on your computer and then paste the pic anywhere you want, on other sites or on a word processor document. Simultaneous Control-c for copy and Control-v for paste.
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A Recorded Judicial Committee Meeting
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a powerful recording of the errors of the society.

https://youtu.be/00ragb9pfos.
Vanderhoven7

A Powerful Recording of the errors of the Society
https://youtu.be/00RaGb9PFos
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JW Excuses
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the following list was posted by generation2 in reddit.

perhaps you can add to it.. 1- it's a translation issue.

2- that's how things where then.
Vanderhoven7

Great list of excuses, thought termination cliches, conversation stoppers Seabreeze.
Another
All the answers you need are at JW.org
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By What Authority Do you Teach?
by Vanderhoven7 in
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2. beliefs
i am in earnest.

i will not excuse; i will not equivocate;.

i will not retreat a single inch.
Vanderhoven7

Good response.
Interestingly none of the New Testament writers pointed to themselves as objects of salvation, loyalty veneration, worship, but reported as eyewitnesses of Christ's words, life, miracles and resurrection. They all invited individuals to respond directly to God and His Christ for salvation...and promised believers in Christ would receive the gift of the Holy Spirit who alone could reveal Christ to the heart, mind and spirit of believers.
The Watchtower distorts the message, drawing men to themselves, calling for loyalty to themselves and equating themselves with Jehovah. You leave the organization and you have left Jehovah.
Christian's are not responding to men for salvation but to the good news of Christ...whether the messengers themselves down through the ages have read or have not read a single verse of the New Testament.
Take the Holy Spirit out of the equation and you have nothing.