anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.
26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".
his contradictory claims are common among jw's.
DT
Every Christian is saved: justified, sanctified and will be glorified. There is no such thing in scripture, as a Christian who has not been born again, is not an adopted son of God or bereft of the indwelling Holy Spirit. And these benefits are all gifts of His grace by faith in Christ Jesus.
Can you show me a single scripture to the contrary?
any one that have a funny or unusual experience from field service?
maeby you visited favela brazil.
the hood in the usa.
I see he was unsuccessful.
Happy trails. Hope you stay well.
denial..
You're projecting DT
You haven't addressed one of mine.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
DT
"While the small group selected to be taken to heaven have had their sins forgiven from Pentecost of 33 C.E. onward and thus already enjoy the Jubilee, the Scriptures show that the liberation for believing mankind will occur during Christ's Millennial Reign. That will be when he applies to mankind the benefits of his ransom sacrifice." The January 1, 1987 Watchtower, page 30
The Watchtower organization denies 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses the salvific benefits of a personal relationship with Jesus, i.e., eternal life as a gift, adoption as sons, access to the blood and body of Christ; forgiveness of sins, Christ's imputed righteousness and the indwelling Holy Spirit of God.
All of this of course, is heresy of the first order.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
The disciples. Your point?
So has the blood of Jesus Christ cleansed you of all your sins? I John 1:7
Do you have the indwelling Holy Spirit? Romans 8:9-11
i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.
that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?
they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.
Sounds like the biggest danger to the value of the dollar is Biden.
again, i'm a decade removed from the faith.
i'm catching up now, and can't believe what i'm seeing.. i get that jw leadership faced a dilemma.
there is no intellectual apparatus within the faith.
Well, here is the best of JW Broadcasting
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
DT - Everything hinges on whether or not certain Bible Students in Brooklyn New York were examined and then appointed in 1919 to be the Faithful Slave...and that their mandate was passed on to all subsequent Watchtower leaders.
If they were you should stick with their teachings. If not, you are free to study the Bible for yourself asking God to guide your understanding.
My advice, based on their history, is to assume they are not and let the word of God determine what you believe.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
DT -There is no such thing as two-tier Christianity in scripture. The 144,000 and the great multitude are the same group being described in two different settings (earthly violence vs heavenly blis) and time periods (pre-vs post parousia). The gospel that 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses embrace is non-salvific and provides no assurance because ii's criteria is works-righteousness involving loyalty and submission to 8 popes in Warwick. Jesus cannot save you without these men.
Ding - Excellent analysis:
"There are other groups that don't believe in the Trinity or Hell. The distinctive of Jehovah's Witnesses is loyalty to the organization and the teaching that the GB is Jehovah's appointed faithful and discreet slave who must be obeyed without question."
