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  Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an avid wts supporter writes:.

  re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

  if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Thanks for all the help on this one; especially the quotations, examples and reasoning.
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  Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an avid wts supporter writes:.

  re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

  if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

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  Vanderhoven7

  An avid WTS supporter writes:

  RE: VACCINATIONS: Vaccinations have never been banned. . If they were, then no representative of the WTS would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory Around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the Golden Age (forerunner of the Awake) but NOT from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.

  RE: ORGAN TRANSPLANTS: Organ transplants were never forbidden by the Society. Like vaccinations, organ transplants have always been up to the individual.

  
  

  Is he right or wrong?
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  Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

  by Chickenlips in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to say hey.

  i’m in australia.

  i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Phil,

  I too watch Eric Wilson's videos. Many are excellent. And Ding is right, The question is not where else, .but to who else. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and The Life.

  Congratulations for having the courage to do the research that led you to where you are now.

  Don't be depressed; Jesus loves you to death and His Word will continue to set you free.
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  Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

  by Chickenlips in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted to say hey.

  i’m in australia.

  i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Congratulations and Welcome to the forum Phil! Happy for the fact that you have at least one family member you can share with.

  Hope to hear more about your awakening.
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  Elders confidential September

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for elders.

  announcements and reminders.

  september 2022.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Thanks for sharing (leaking) this confidential material Mike.
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Smiles,

  I don't see believers needing to summon Jesus to do what He says He will do. This is gospel and Christians are united in believing what Jesus says and accomplished. I was listening this morning, to a wonderful rendition of, "My Faith Has Found a Resting Place"; the chorus of which goes like this.

  I need no other argument

  I need no other plea,

  It is enough that Jesus died,

  And that He died for me.
  

  Try https://youtu.be/cTdTU7mYFEg
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Now i understand why you don't believe that Jesus can be in two places at once- in the heart of all believers and guiding their fellowship whenever they meet together in His name....and that's because you don't believe He exists.

  OK.
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Smiles

  Do you believe that Jesus is really there in the midst of multiple believers meeting in His name?
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  Does anyone know why the quote function doesnt always work?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or perhaps i'm doing something wrong?

  oftentimes if i try to quote someone so that it's highlighted in yellow, after i submit my comments, the quote remains but my comments are gone.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Betty,

  Or perhaps i'm doing something wrong?

  I find the best way to use the quote function is after you complete your post. Then go to the quoted parts, highlight them and then click on the quote function. That way you will not lose anything.
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  According to Jehovah's Witnesses, who will be saved?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know who won't be saved according to witnesses and that includes just about everyone alive at armageddon who is not a jehovah’s witness.

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  others who are permanently lost include adam and eve, those who died in the flood, people of sodom and gomorrah and apostates to their one true religion..

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  Vanderhoven7

  And the Self-righteous will stand before Jesus on that day saying.

  Did we not travel land and sea to make one disciple? Did we not tithe, did we not warn the sinners to repent? Did we not start many Bible Studies? We did many wonderful works. OK we did not establish any orphanages and such because we had a more important task of making Jehovah’s name known among the nations.

  Jesus will reply, "Don't you know what makes my Father's name known?" You counted on your works to save yourselves...as if I owed you salvation for your efforts. If you had loved me, you would have built orphanages, you would have rescued widows and the homeless..... These are the things that my sheep do becsause they love me and follow me...not to save themselves but because I live in them and express my love through them.

  My sheep know that it is only by grace that they are saved, forgiven and promised eternal life. Salvation is not by works of righteousness that they have done, but by my mercy alone through the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost which I have shed upon them abundantly.

  Take your filthy rag works and depart from me you self righteous ones into the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his demons."