Posts by Vanderhoven7

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UN and Governing Body and an accounting

by AnnaNana in

joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".

joseph and mary were not perfect.

the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.

Vanderhoven7

Hi AnnaNanna,

I am having a hard time understanding why you believe that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is the Faithful and Wise Servant of Matthew 24:25-47.

You didn't believe that until 2013. So it must be you believe this because the Governing Body told you they were the Faithful Slave.

But where is the evidence? Please list that evidence for me.

The current GB claims the Faithful and Wise Servant was appointed in Brooklyn New York in 1919? What is the evidence of that appointment on which the current GB rests it's claim to authority?

Is 1919 biblical? Who actually was appointed? Why were they appointed? What is the evidence?

It seems to me at this point, that your faith is in men, not Jehovah or His word, the Bible. And to make association with and loyalty to these men a part of the salvation formula, a requirement for surviving Armageddon, if not biblically supported, is heresy of the first order.

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Did Jesus have a Y chromosome?

by Fisherman in

even in jesus’s day, humans had chromosomes.

and so did jesus —because he was human.

so let’s say jesus took a dna test, his mitochondrial dna would go back to eve but interestingly jc also would inherit dna from sinful adam on his mother’s side because his mother mary passed on to jc dna from both adam and eve.

Vanderhoven7

https://youtube.com/shorts/UjD1QL8qJ9E?feature=share

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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?

by enoughisenough in

12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.

as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.

Vanderhoven7

Regardless of how you view the Bible, eternal pleasure is written therein as the destiny for the saints.

https://youtu.be/0zWZu-QupWU

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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?

by enoughisenough in

12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.

as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.

Vanderhoven7

@Smiles

I would say it is biblical without the writhing.

Psalm 16:11 KJV — Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

For the joy that was set before Him Jesus forewent pleasure and endured the cross that He might win our hearts and reconcile us to the Father. Winning us was His ultimate pleasure and victory.

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Hello from the UK

by KIMSILVIO in

jw
friends

i am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.

Vanderhoven7

Punk, I thought you were in Canada! What happened?

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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?

by enoughisenough in

12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.

as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.

Vanderhoven7

Yup.. read all about it in my book, Eternal Torment-Image and Reality, available at Amazon Books. I go through all 65 Sheol, 11 Hades and 12 Gehenna passages in the Bible looking for eternal torment. Then I go through every passage that deals with final punishment in the entire Bible again searching for eternal torment.

We end uo looking extensively at Luke 16:19-31 and Revelation 20:10; the first used to support temporary torment after death and the latter, endless torment of the devil, the beast and the false prophet.

As all good Jehovah's Witnesses know, there is not one verse that says the soul is immortal or that a single human being will be writhing in endless pain to the glory of God.

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Tried to warn another mum

by DarleneGatus in

the thing that broke me was that i tried to warn another mum in the congregation about a brother who was inappropriate with my son, which upset me, and so i called her to talk about it since we both knew him and i had also seen him pin her daughter down on the sofa and slap the girl's bottom.

i called it inappropriate, but i never accused him of anything beyond that.. unfortunately, word got back to him and i had to go in front of 3 elders, including the brother who i felt had been inappropriate.

because they came down on me for trying to stop the behavior, and not on him for being the cause of upset, i felt very hurt and started questioning more things.

Vanderhoven7

You are one tough cookie DarleneGatus!

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Latest jw broadcast referring to allegations of protecting pedophiles

by jonahstourguide in

hi folks.. i put this in abuse as i thought it relevant.. a physically in mentally out friend that considers our friendship greater than religion told me that on the latest broadcast steven lett alluded to satans voice being behind people that claim the organisation protects pedophiles.. my friend then went on to say they must be in damage control.. he added, but that is correct, they are hiding their internal records.

is not that construed as protecting the accused?.

if i get the inclination i may post a snippet of what was actually said.. sadly my friend is trying to protect his family relationships and so goes along with the charade.. his situation weighs on me but, as many of you here know, it can be a difficult road to travel.. jtg.

Vanderhoven7

Here is the clip being referred to.

https://youtu.be/C2_-p2gBj6c

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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?

by enoughisenough in

12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?

to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.

as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.

Vanderhoven7

Great quotation Enough. All of the Watchtower Society's unique teachings including their self-serving eschatology is entirely fictional as well as unscriptural.

I would say the most important thing Russell got right was his stand against both immortality of the soul and related eternal torment teaching.

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Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

by Vanderhoven7 in

an avid wts supporter writes:.

re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

Vanderhoven7

Earnest, I missed your post. That is an important distinction. Thanks.

Slim, I added your comment to my response.

BE, I will use that info in my next response.