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  Christmas, yes or no ?

  by jhine in

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  i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

  christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

  however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.

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  Vanderhoven7

  @ Sloppyjoe2

  I don't know any christmas songs

  Well then, let me introduce you to a great Christmas carol to start you off.

  Enjoy

  https://youtu.be/Bbu6AII10Pk
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Punky,

  "...teaching them not to observe everything I have commanded you..."

  JWs are preaching a false gospel which does not save them and unrelatable Jesus whose blood does not apply.

  Sad really.
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  List of Things We Were NOT Allowed To Do as JW's

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. friends

  here's my list of jw no-no's as i recall: .

  1. no giving or accepting valentine candy for students.

  2. no going to home coming football games.

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  Vanderhoven7

  no hypnosis

  worldly psychiatrists dangerous
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Vanderhoven7

  The Question is:

  Is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses committing Blasphemy?

  (99+) Is the Governing Body Committing Blasphemy | Jeffrey Thomas - Academia.edu
  
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Vanderhoven7

  @Fisherman

  All I said was “refers”.And there are good reasons to believe WT interpretation of the verse.

  Really? What are the good reasons to accept the WTS interpretation that the Faithful Slave started as a small group of men chosen in 1919 at Brooklyn headquarters and that every Christian has to put their trust in their current successors or be destroyed at Armageddon?

  I hope this is convincing Fishy, because I don't want to be destroyed at Armageddon for missing what is scripturally obvious to you.
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  @Punko

  Yes, and the Bible teaches the Faithful Slave would be a small group of men chosen in 1919 at Brooklyn headquarters and that every Christian would have to put their trust in these men since Jesus does, or be destroyed at Armageddon. It's obviously your moral duty to recognize this F&DS. Examine their record if you still are not sure.
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  An interesting Observation of some Bibles

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
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  first of all, hi, i go by blotty on this website :) i am someone who has a passion for the bible and like to get a as balanced view as i can from the trinitarian and the jw (or unitarian) side - even though i come off as leaning towards one or the other at times, in my opinion they both have merits in certain cases..if this is in the wrong section i apologise - this is just something i found interesting.iv seen online a lot that say the watchtower and tract society "invented" the link between proverbs 8:22 - 30 and jesus (the word).

  yet interestingly some "mainstream" "trinitarian- aimed" translations are cross referencing the following:source:https://www.biblegateway.comprov 8:22 cr rev 3:14niv, gnt,esv, nasb, nasb1995, nasbre, cevprov 8:30 cr john 1:1,2 esv nasbprov 8:30 cr john 1:3esvnasb1995nasb(this list is by no means complete)if this is simply wisdom, why is it referenced with jesus (or the word)?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Bloty,

  Welcome to the forum by the way!

  The problem JWs had until 1954 was constantly being accused of worshipping two gods. After receiving new light in 1954 they now only worship one god through a god, Jesus aka Michael the archangel. Problem solved!
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  God Has Only One Visible Organization on Earth!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  why is it important to some that god only have one visible organization to represent him on earth?

  why is it important to jehovah's witnesses that people recognize their organization as such?

  what makes a witness more moral or righteous or save-worthy if they accept that it is his one and only organization?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Russell was right Punky

  "Beware of "organization." It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others' consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours."

  Watchtower, September 15, 1895:
  
  
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  Living your life according to the bible

  by TTWSYF in

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  i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].

  my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".

  ttwsyf.

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  Vanderhoven7

  No, JWs do not live according to the Bible.

  Instead, 8.5 million Jehovah's Witnesses live their lives according to the Governing Body's word and dictates.

  That's why they can put their full trust in men when the Bible instructs not to put trust in men.

  That's why they preach that you need not be born again to enter the kingdom of God when Jesus says otherwise

  That's why they refuse to partake of the emblems of Christ's death when Jesus tells Christians to partake or you have no life in you.

  That is why they believe they must work for salvation when the scriptures say we are saved by grace, not of works.

  That's why they say they are not children of God right now when the Bible says as many as received him have the right to be children of God.

  That's why they claim not to have the indwelling Holy Spirit when the Bible says, if you are bereft of the indwelling Holy Spirit, you do not belong to Christ.

  That is why they don't repent of their trust in men and believe the gospel.

  That is why they cannot have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, come to Him, call on Him, pray to Him or even say, "Thank you Jesus my Lord and Saviour for dying for me."

  That is why they are bereft of the indwelling Holy Spirit, relationship with Jesus , eternal life, sonship, forgiveness of sin and the righteousness of Christ that His blood has procured for every believer. Acts 13:39

  All they are left with is the empty promise of men that if they stick with them, they just might survive Armageddon.

  That's it. That's all they have.
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  God Has Only One Visible Organization on Earth!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why is it important to some that god only have one visible organization to represent him on earth?

  why is it important to jehovah's witnesses that people recognize their organization as such?

  what makes a witness more moral or righteous or save-worthy if they accept that it is his one and only organization?

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  Vanderhoven7

  Yes, but remember new light does not contradict old light but adds to it.

  The accurate rationalization is that this quotation originated in 1895 wheras Jehovah only became editor of the Watchtower in 1919.

  Thus pre-1919 truths don't really count.🙃