Posts by Vanderhoven7

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What hymns will you never hear sung in Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Vanderhoven7 in

for sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below.

do you know others?.

https://youtu.be/gkovqfcdegu.

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For sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below. Do you know others?

https://youtu.be/GKOVqFcdEgU

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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

by Fisherman in

i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

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Fisherman

It seems that the Watchtower Ship is consistently tacking yet never arriving at the truth.

What specific truth or truths have Jehovah's Witnesses consistently proclaimed that make their organization essential to salvation?

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

I have struggled with this since I had a neighbor (a liberal Lutheran) who chose MAiD. We visited him days before his departure. We talked gospel with him but were not judgmental about his decision-making.

I don't think MAiD is the unforgivable sin. I think there are justifiable reasons to terminate one's life prematurely although they may be rare. Those jumping from twin-tower windows in NY to avoid the pain of the inescapable is one such example.

I'm reminded of a movie I saw where a group of Americans were being chased by Amazonian tribesmen. Almost all escaped in a small boat to their ship. One was caught on the shore and the chief began slicing every inch of his body while he screamed in pain with every slice. From the ship, a fellow escapee picked up a rifle and shot his suffering friend in the head much to the wrath of the chief. The shooter was later tried for murder. I forgot how the trial ended, but I'm sure everyone watching the episode was relieved by the shooting

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

Excellent find Blondie.

I wonder if "mercy killing" goes on in our hospitals rather regularly. As the end approaches for the elderly, does ramping up their morphine contribute to a speedy death?

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Waton,

Perhaps JWs in desperate need of a blood transfusion could be labeled suicidal, but I don't see Christ as suicidal. Examining His prayer in Gethsemane would suggest otherwise. Martyrdom would be a more fitting description.

Does Watchtower hold that there are circumstances where MAiD is justified?

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

A little background and church response

https://www.faithtoday.ca/Magazines/2022-May-Jun/Navigating-Medical-Assistance-in-Dying

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

There has been much political controversy in Canada over the acceptability of MAiD. What, if anything, has Watchtower said about this issue?

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Trinity

by Lost in the fog in

bumped into a former jw friend who since departing has joined a protestant church.. his explanation of the trinity is "think of the congregation service committee in the jw religion, the three people who locally made all of the decisions affecting the congregation.".

three people each with their own personality who individually were seen as the coordinator, the service overseer, and the secretary.

but who made decisions as a combined unit.. so on the midweek meeting it was announced that "the service committee has approved the following..." .

Vanderhoven7

Yes, where would we be without the Slave to tell us what to believe and how to dress?

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The Holy Spirit

by Leolaia in

this was posted originally in the rodney dangerfield thread......

i don't really know much about the trinity other than what i was told as a jw but it does seem to me that the holy ghost is definitely running a distant third in the popularity contest.

when jws get into arguments with trinitarians, it's almost always about whether jesus is god, isn't it?

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.....and oldbie

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What really is UN doing with religions?

by Kosonen in

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occult un forces seek to hijack religion for globalism.

https://thenewamerican.com/occult-un-forces-seek-to-hijack-religion-for-globalism/it does not look like religions dominate un but the other way around.

journalist alex newman gives a totally different picture about the real state of affairs.

Vanderhoven7

Bahá’u’lláh, the latest and final manifestation of God has already accomplished this (uniting of all religions). So no need for the UN to re-invent the wheel.