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  Who will be killed at Armageddon?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

  but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

  it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

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  Fortunately, nobody.
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  The FDS Photoshop

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.

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  from the february 2024 watchtower .

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  For those interested in the latest version of the Faithful Slave.

  

  From the February 2024 Watchtower
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  Governing body

  by moley in

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  are the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .

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  The deceivers running the show at headquarters

  Menacing Mistral writes: "So the governing body claims that Jesus trusts them and so should jehovah's witnesses, yet they deceptively photoshop this picture rather than create a new picture. The bottom picture(altered) is from the February 2024 watchtower. One has to wonder how much do they alter the jworg website? We're constantly finding alterations done, usually to hide something. One glaring example is how they're subtly erasing Tony Morris from existence as a governing body member."

  
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  PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

  should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

  what on earth will the husband think then?

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  At least, as a Witness, she is now free to remarry.
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  Why Jehovah's Witnesses leave the Organisation

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i like this guy's analysis .

  https://youtu.be/vzkjbnjh5nu?si=ug_ahnird6ygsm41.

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  I like this guy's analysis

  https://youtu.be/VzKJBnjh5nU?si=UG_AHnird6yGSM41
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

  by IWant2Know in

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  Haha, I blame my phone for the homophonal alteration.
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  Who will be killed at Armageddon?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

  but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

  it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

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  The biggest change in WT doctrine brought out at the AGM is that people can repent after the tribulation starts. That means that these people can become Jehovah's Witnesses before Armageddon strikes and survive into the new system.

  But I don't think that changes anything for those who do not become Jehovah's Witnesses during the tribulation.

  You still have to be a Jehovah's Witness to survive Armageddon. It's still bye bye for 8 billion
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

  by IWant2Know in

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  Yes, Iwant2know,

  Know doubt you were thinking of Leolaia.
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

  by IWant2Know in

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  Right on Seabreeze. BTW I am preaching on 1Jonn 5 tomorrow.

  @IWant2know

  Christ's kingdom was set up after His Ascension and Glorification. Nothing to do with the Watchtower version of the kingdom

  Benson Commentary

  And in the days of these kings — That is, kingdoms, or during the succession of these four monarchies; and it must be during the time of the last of them, because they are reckoned four in succession, and consequently this must be the fifth kingdom. Shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom — This can only be understood with propriety, as the ancients understood it, of the kingdom of Christ. Accordingly, his kingdom was set up during the days of the last of these kingdoms, that is, the Roman. The stone was totally a different thing from the image; and the kingdom of Christ is totally different from the kingdoms of this world. The stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, as our heavenly body is said (2 Corinthians 5:1) to be a building of God, a house not made with hands, that is, spiritual, as the phrase is used in other places. This the fathers generally apply to Christ himself, who was miraculously born of a virgin, without the concurrence of man: but it should be rather understood of the kingdom of Christ, which was formed out of the Roman empire, not by number of hands, or strength of armies, but without human means, and the virtue of second causes. This kingdom was set up by the God of heaven, and from hence the phrase of the kingdom of heaven came to signify the kingdom of the Messiah; and so it was used and understood by the Jews, and so it is applied by our Saviour in the New Testament.
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  Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

  by IWant2Know in

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  i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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  The gospel is not a minor issue. Ask 8.5 million Jehovah's Witnesses if they are saved or if all of their sins are forgiven and you can expect evasive answers. They are preaching a non-salvivic works based gospel which is no gospel at all and provides no assurance of anything. If they hang on to the words of men in New York they might survive Armageddon. If they don't, they are toast.