Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations
by IWant2Know in
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i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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Vanderhoven7

Why is the world still messed up?
Because Jesus Christ's parousia is still future. Until then, Jesus is only ruling in the hearts of those who have repented and believed His gospel. Nothing to do with 1874, 1914, 1919, men in New York or religion.
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Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?
by Vanderhoven7 in
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i understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.

he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.

we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
Vanderhoven7

I understand he intimated that the Faithful Slave was not the only spokesman for Jehovah God. He also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the WTS
We're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
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PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
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2. beliefs
if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

what on earth will the husband think then?
Vanderhoven7

Seems to me the guy was looking for an out. Perhaps the grass was greener elsewhere and he was fed up with her JW nonsense.
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Watchtower publications missing in PDF [1907 Zion’s Glad Songs No. 2 also missing (edit)]
by Pierre1974 in
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i am looking for old publications in pdf to complete my collection.

1900 watch tower index 1895-1899.

1976 watch tower publications index 1971-1975. frederick william franz (1977-1992).
Vanderhoven7

Irish Dub writes:
The original C.T. Russell gospel never had a ministry to “other sheep” but to first fruits of the nations.
The major change to this “first fruits” gospel aka Born of the Spirit, was changed when Judge Rutherford's hostile take over of the Watchtower in court and a major split occurred.
The Dawn Bible Students were THE ORIGINAL group and has continued to this day to gather the first fruits anointed from the nations as shown in their Dawn Bible publications.
Their is a publication booklet on Dawn Bible Students about the split with Pastor Russell.
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slimboyfat & blondie made news on newshub.com
by LevelThePlayingField in
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2. beliefs
i know, how do i find this stuff, right?

the article is long, so just do a ctrl-f then type in your name... also jehovahs-witness.com mentioned in this article.

"theocratic warfare" is a contentious theological doctrine of the jehovah's witness (jw) movement in christianity.. .
Vanderhoven7

Grant Davies gives some guidance when choosing a religion.
"Like any religion, Watchtower may produce fine subjective reasons why they are the only true religion. Like any religion that’s where their credentials end.
If you really must have a religion in your life then choose one without caveats and high control.
Choose one which doesn’t tell you what you should wear at meetings.
Choose one which doesn’t repeatedly ask if you’re doing enough.
Choose one which doesn’t keep changing its mind when it fails.
Choose one which doesn’t tell you what your facial hair should appear like
Choose one which doesn’t wish to prevent your children going to higher education
Choose one which doesn’t tell you as a married couple, what is an acceptable bedroom practice and what isn’t.
Choose one which allows you to watch Harry Potter and the Smurfs if you wish.
Choose one that allows you to openly discuss with other members things which may not appear to correct teachings.
Choose one which isn’t swamped with accusations of multiple child sex abuse cover ups.
Choose one which doesn’t try to tell you who you can and cannot mix with socially.
Choose one which doesn’t tell you which of your family members you can and cannot talk to.
Choose one which doesn’t weigh you down with a permanent feeling of existential dread.
Choose carefully.
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
by Vanderhoven7 in
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2. beliefs
hope everyone on board is happy and well!.

jw's don't know what they are missing.

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Vanderhoven7

Free at Last.
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
hope everyone on board is happy and well!.

jw's don't know what they are missing.

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Vanderhoven7

Too bad.
Do you celebrate birthdays in Australia?
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
by Vanderhoven7 in
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2. beliefs
hope everyone on board is happy and well!.

jw's don't know what they are missing.

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Vanderhoven7

Hi Brible
I notice you didn't wish us all a happy Thanksgiving. Why is that?
What would be the consequence if a Witness called to wish all the elders a happy Thanksgiving?
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
hope everyone on board is happy and well!.

jw's don't know what they are missing.

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Vanderhoven7

Hope everyone on board is happy and well!
JW's don't know what they are missing.
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Who will be killed at Armageddon?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
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2. beliefs
if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.
Vanderhoven7

They (GB FDS) don't know and they never knew, but that didn't stop them from pontificating.
The unrepeatable great tribulation occurred in the first century culminating in the destruction of Jerusalem and the dispersion of survivors throughout the known world...which of course is where the Jews are today and won't happen again.
Needless to say, I believe WT "theologians" as well as others have lifted Matthew 24 and much of the book of Revelation out of its historic context.