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Vanderhoven7
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Vanderhoven7
Read Matthew 24:45-47
The Faithful Slave was appointed in New York in 1919 at Watchtower Headquarters…invisibly of course. This Slave happened to include at least 7 Watchtower directors as well as Joseph Rutherford, the then president of the Society. The Faithful Slave appointment was passed on to all subsequent Watchtower directors so that today the current 9 man Governing Body is the Slave. If you don't trust them, you don't trust Jehovah.
Who else could the Faithful Slave be? If you don't believe this and obey the Slave, you will be destroyed at Armageddon… unless you die before the great tribulation starts and then you get an automatic pass into paradise.
So either hurry up and die or else come to Jehovah's Organization for salvation before its too late.
By the way, this nonsense is exactly what has been taught by Jehovah’s Witnesses since 2012 when the GB discovered the GB is the Faithful Slave. Better late than never to finally get this clarification from Jehovah.
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Punkofnice
by jhine indoes anyone know how punky is ?
he hasn't posted in a while ?
jan from tam .
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Vanderhoven7
Missing you Punky boy!
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Who are Jesus" other sheep?
by Vanderhoven7 inwatchtower other sheep.
and other sheep i have, which are not of this fold: them also i must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
(john 10:16).
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Vanderhoven7
Excellent Pronger1! The hearing and then seeing sequence is a literary devise that John uses frequently in Revelation to display his images.
144,000 is symbolic of the church.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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Vanderhoven7
That is one thing Russell got that right Rattigan. He also had the truth on "organization".
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Vanderhoven7
You know you are in a man-made religion when you have not spoken to your children for the last 25 years but now, all of a sudden, you can smile and say “Hi” if you see them in the Kingdom Hall.
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Who are Jesus" other sheep?
by Vanderhoven7 inwatchtower other sheep.
and other sheep i have, which are not of this fold: them also i must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
(john 10:16).
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Vanderhoven7
@bbqbob
The Bible teaches that all Christians are born-again of and indwelt by the Spirit and as such are justified sons of God bound for glory.
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Who are Jesus" other sheep?
by Vanderhoven7 inwatchtower other sheep.
and other sheep i have, which are not of this fold: them also i must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
(john 10:16).
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Vanderhoven7
Very clear Boogerman!
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Who are Jesus" other sheep?
by Vanderhoven7 inwatchtower other sheep.
and other sheep i have, which are not of this fold: them also i must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
(john 10:16).
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Vanderhoven7
WATCHTOWER OTHER SHEEP
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. (John 10:16)
The words “other sheep” on the lips of Jesus in John 10:16 are not defined for us...so admittedly there is a certain amount of ambiguity which both Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons capitalize on. Now there is a reason for the ambiguity, which I won't go into now. But, letting scripture interpret scripture, we remember Jesus was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel....not to the Gentiles. It was actually some time after Pentecost that the disciples came to realize that Jesus also laid down His life for the Gentile nations and that the gospel was intended for them as well as the Jews; that they both would be one body in Christ as Paul brings out in Eph 2:16 and they would share one hope Eph 4:4 of their calling.
That's the Bible interpreting the Bible. But the WTS feels it has the authority over the Bible to add to or impregnate this passage with all kinds of extra-biblical teaching: According to the WTS Jesus was intending in Jn 10:16 to communicate much more information. To Jehovah's Witnesses Jesus was actually saying here:
And other sheep have I, which are not of this fold: no, because:
1. They will only begin being called early on in the 20th century...not before.
2. They will not be saints of God,
3. They will not have the indwelling Holy Spirit.
4. My righteousness will not be imputed to them.
5. They will not be justified to life until the 1000 years are completed.
6. They will not merit being raised in the first resurrection
7. I will not be their personal mediator;
8. They will not be part of my New Covenant arrangement.
9. They will not be entitled to partake of the emblems of my death.
10. They will not have a heavenly hope
11. They will be not Spirit Begotten Son's of God.
12. They will need to be affiliated with the Watchtower Society to be saved from ultimate destruction at Armageddon.
This might be what this verse means to Jehovah's Witnesses.... But is two class Christianity what the Bible teaches?
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Petition against Ostracism Practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://peticaopublica.com.br/pview.aspx?pi=br137007.
petition against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
public petition: against ostracism practiced by jehovah's witnesses.
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Vanderhoven7
@bbqbob,
You are welcome. Glad you are still with us.
"Two class system, please show some scriptures that disprove the little flock from the other sheep."
I'll start a thread on this one if you don't mind.
Van