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  Has the Watchtower ever admitted in writing that blood transfusions could save a person's physical life?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?.

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  Thanks guys. That is indeed close Ding. DofC, I checked it out and you were right. Thanks!

  "Jehovah's witnesses do not argue that blood transfusions have not kept alive patients who otherwise might have died. We do not take it upon ourselves to conduct an objective debate of the advisability of the use of blood in medical therapy. The point is not for us to determine. God himself has ruled on the matter, and it would be presumptuous for us, in the name of medicine or humanitarianism or anything else, to open the issue to debate, to pit human wisdom and experience against the law of God....Although Jehovah's witnesses will not eat blood as a food, nor in medical use consent to any kind of blood transfusion or, in place of it, an infusion of any blood fraction or blood substance, this does not rule out all medical treatment."

  Blood, Medicine and the Law of God (1961) pp.38,39
  
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  Has the Watchtower ever admitted in writing that blood transfusions could save a person's physical life?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?
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  I just turned 75 and here is a giant steaming pile of my "Wisdumb"

  by Terry in

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  birthday wisdom magnum opus.

  i was born 2 years after the end of wwii.. everything was in black and white.. harry truman was president.. mahatma gandhi was the spiritual leader of india.. .

  by the time i was 5, a new-fangled invention called television.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Happy birthday Terry! You are 1 month ahead of me....so I relate to almost everything you said. Thanks for the laughs as well.
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  Interesting field service experiences

  by asp59 in

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  any one that have a funny or unusual experience from field service?

  maeby you visited favela brazil.

  the hood in the usa.

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  Vanderhoven7

  @LV101

  Thank you for making my day!
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  Are JW's Sins Forgiven? NO - (Says the Watchtower)

  by Sea Breeze in

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  anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.

  26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".

  his contradictory claims are common among jw's.

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  DT

  Every Christian is saved: justified, sanctified and will be glorified. There is no such thing in scripture, as a Christian who has not been born again, is not an adopted son of God or bereft of the indwelling Holy Spirit. And these benefits are all gifts of His grace by faith in Christ Jesus.

  Can you show me a single scripture to the contrary?
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  Interesting field service experiences

  by asp59 in

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  any one that have a funny or unusual experience from field service?

  maeby you visited favela brazil.

  the hood in the usa.

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  Vanderhoven7

  I see he was unsuccessful.
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  Shill forum. Goodbye folks

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  goodbye.

  i'm off 🖐️.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Happy trails. Hope you stay well.
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  Why do Anti-Jws refuse to answer questions- and ignore our answers?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  denial..

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  Vanderhoven7

  You're projecting DT

  You haven't addressed one of mine.
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  DT

  "While the small group selected to be taken to heaven have had their sins forgiven from Pentecost of 33 C.E. onward and thus already enjoy the Jubilee, the Scriptures show that the liberation for believing mankind will occur during Christ's Millennial Reign. That will be when he applies to mankind the benefits of his ransom sacrifice." The January 1, 1987 Watchtower, page 30

  The Watchtower organization denies 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses the salvific benefits of a personal relationship with Jesus, i.e., eternal life as a gift, adoption as sons, access to the blood and body of Christ; forgiveness of sins, Christ's imputed righteousness and the indwelling Holy Spirit of God.

  All of this of course, is heresy of the first order.
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  Can you be a JW who does not have the GB as their leader?

  by DoubtingThomas in

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  i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....

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  Vanderhoven7

  The disciples. Your point?

  So has the blood of Jesus Christ cleansed you of all your sins? I John 1:7

  Do you have the indwelling Holy Spirit? Romans 8:9-11