Posts by Vanderhoven7

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slimboyfat & blondie made news on newshub.com
by LevelThePlayingField in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i know, how do i find this stuff, right?

the article is long, so just do a ctrl-f then type in your name... also jehovahs-witness.com mentioned in this article.

"theocratic warfare" is a contentious theological doctrine of the jehovah's witness (jw) movement in christianity.. .
Vanderhoven7

You can suspect Witnesses are lying if they answer NO to the following questions:
1 Are there any aspects of your religion that trouble you or perhaps make you uncomfortable?
2 Would you say that all other religions are essentially satanic or part of Satan's kingdom?
3. Do you believe that God is planning to destroy all other religions including the churches of Christendom along with their clergy and supporters?
4. Do you believe, perhaps with rare exceptions, that only faithful Jehovah's Witnesses have a scriptural hope of surviving Armageddon?
5. Do you believe that Jehovah's Witnesses who willfully and unrepentantly accept blood transfusions forfeit the hope of gaining eternal life?
You can suspect Witnesses are lying if they answer YES to the following questions:
6. Would you say that Witnesses are free to question and even disagree with what comes down from your religion's headquarters? (without repercussion?)
7. Do you know of any honorable way for a Jehovah's Witness to leave your religion? (In other words, can people leave the religion with their reputation intact?)
8. Do you believe that adult Jehovah's Witnesses, who either leave or are disfellowshipped from your religion, should not be shunned?
9. If you somehow lost faith in your religion's primary leadership, would you keep your faith in God and the Bible?
10. Do you believe that the gospel Jehovah's Witnesses preach is the same gospel that Paul preached?
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Sinthetic human life. No parents needed except the stem cell donor.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. medical
with this process, there is no spe&m, no egg, no conception but a developing life.

what is the world coming to?.

https://abcn.ws/3qozsjj.
Vanderhoven7

Why would Simon assume the role when he already has guys like scholar and Godbeliever onboard promoting WTS heresy?
I knew Fisherman was a fraud when he said that he prays that his great tribulation flight from Jerusalem and Judea would not be in winter or on a Sabbath day.
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Sinthetic human life. No parents needed except the stem cell donor.
by Fisherman in
1. watchtower
2. medical
with this process, there is no spe&m, no egg, no conception but a developing life.

what is the world coming to?.

https://abcn.ws/3qozsjj.
Vanderhoven7

@Punky
Fisherman has been onboard JWN for close to 20 years. He (or she) was an apostate 16 years ago judging from his dismissal of WTS blood policy posts and admitted prior Watchtower indoctrination.
Why he has now chosen to pretend to be a Witness or at least a WTS supporter is beyond me.
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Apostates apparently have their own terminology
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

"those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

“8 old men in new york”,.
Vanderhoven7

Excellent quotation Punky. Seems many Watchtowerites need to be reminded of it. Copied for future use.
Thanks.
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Apostates apparently have their own terminology
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

"those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

“8 old men in new york”,.
Vanderhoven7

Right SBF
Could have used the Borg, and what about the Washtowel and Field Circus.
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Great Sites For Watchtower INFO
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if you are looking for pre-1950 watchtower mags, try.

https://wtarchive.wordpress.com/english/zions-watch-tower/.

how about pdfs.
Vanderhoven7

If you are looking for pre-1950 Watchtower mags, try
https://wtarchive.wordpress.com/english/zions-watch-tower/
How about PDFs
https://wtarchive.wordpress.com/english/zions-watch-tower/
Which sites do you recommend
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Apostates apparently have their own terminology
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

"those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

“8 old men in new york”,.
Vanderhoven7

Good answer!
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Apostates apparently have their own terminology
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

"those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

“8 old men in new york”,.
Vanderhoven7
A dyed in the wool Witness actually posted this as if non-Witnesses invented unheard of terminology,
"Those who devote their life to criticize Jehovah’s Witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:
- “kangaroo court”,
- “8 old men in New York”,
- “they claim to be prophets”,
- publications “heavily redacted”,
- beliefs that “don’t stand up to scrutiny”,
- “brainwashed”,
- “love bombing”;
- they avoid “independent thinking”,
- “overlapping generation”,
- “mind control”,
- “spoon-fed”;
- “Watchtower”,
- “cognitive dissonance”;
- “they’re constantly changing their beliefs”,
- “indoctrination”,
- “conditional love”;
- “programmed”;
- “old light”,
- “a hamster wheel”,
- “they are parrots”,
- “theocratic warfare”,
- “Kool aid”,
- “they protect pedophiles”,
- “they shun you if you leave”,
- “they are a cult”,
- “they hate ex Witnesses”,
- “they don’t believe that Jesus is their mediator”,
- “they shun you even if you don’t leave but you disagree with a minor point”,
- “they believe Jesus is Michael the archangel”,
- “they don’t help the poor”,
- “they are very judgmental”,
- “they like cherry picking verses”,
- “if you tell them you are an apostate, they run away”,
- etc.
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Hypothetical Bible question for Christians
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
although not stated, is it possible that satan issued a challenge regarding adam & eve, just as he did with job?.

reason i ask: if you made something "perfect", why would you unnecessarily subject it to a trial/test?.
Vanderhoven7

Yes, if God is Omniscient He foreknew it all including the holocaust, WWI and WWII etc.
This from "Room for Doubt"
"In these cases in which the biblical author seems to describe God as regretting something and it seems as though God did not know what would happen, it is anthropomorphic language. Anthropomorphic language (describing God using human terms) is used sometimes in the Bible. For example, God does not literally have an arm (Job 40:9) or nostrils (2 Sam. 22:9). We understand how we regret things, and by describing God as regretting His actions, it allows us to get a sense of how God feels about these sinful actions. There is some analogy between God’s sense of regret and our own, even though they are not perfectly analogous. God is infinite in knowledge and incapable of learning new information; by contrast, humanity is finite and needs to learn new things."
Since God lives outside of time He sees from beginning to end and if He is satisfied with the final result (the former things will pass away) I'm sure we will be satisfied when His image is formed in us.
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Hypothetical Bible question for Christians
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
although not stated, is it possible that satan issued a challenge regarding adam & eve, just as he did with job?.

reason i ask: if you made something "perfect", why would you unnecessarily subject it to a trial/test?.
Vanderhoven7

What exactly do you see as evil?
That God allowed Satan into the garden?
That God foreknew the fall and still created man?
That it was not a test?
That man was bound to fail?
That Christ was bound to be crucified?
That God went ahead with creation?
By the way; if the above is true, are you still happy that God saw that you would be born and experience the life you have now?