Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Tried to warn another mum

by DarleneGatus in

the thing that broke me was that i tried to warn another mum in the congregation about a brother who was inappropriate with my son, which upset me, and so i called her to talk about it since we both knew him and i had also seen him pin her daughter down on the sofa and slap the girl's bottom.

i called it inappropriate, but i never accused him of anything beyond that.. unfortunately, word got back to him and i had to go in front of 3 elders, including the brother who i felt had been inappropriate.

because they came down on me for trying to stop the behavior, and not on him for being the cause of upset, i felt very hurt and started questioning more things.

Vanderhoven7

Welcome to the forum Darlene!

You did the right thing and suffered for it. Is your husband still an elder or have you made a break from the organization?

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More Watchtower Quotes

by Sea Breeze in

the secret of the greater intelligence and aptitude of the caucasian undoubtedly in great measure is to be attributed to the commingling of blood amongst its various branches; and this was evidently forced in large measure by circumstances under divine control.“ — charles taze russell zion's watch tower (july 15, 1902), pp.

215-216.. golden age, july 1, 1927..... every bedroom [should receive] at least two hours of sunlight everyday.

[this will] kill tuberculosis and other germs.

Vanderhoven7

Is this quote from the Jehovah's Witnesses hypocritical?

"No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family." - Awake, July 2009, p. 29

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Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

by Vanderhoven7 in

an avid wts supporter writes:.

re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

Vanderhoven7

Thanks for all the help on this one; especially the quotations, examples and reasoning.

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Did the Watchtower Society ban Vaccinations and Organ Transplants?

by Vanderhoven7 in

an avid wts supporter writes:.

re: vaccinations: vaccinations have never been banned.

if they were, then no representative of the wts would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the golden age (forerunner of the awake) but not from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.. re: organ transplants: organ transplants were never forbidden by the society.

Vanderhoven7

An avid WTS supporter writes:

RE: VACCINATIONS: Vaccinations have never been banned. . If they were, then no representative of the WTS would have been allowed to travel overseas when vaccines were compulsory Around 1920 when vaccines was regularly in the news, there was both positive and negative information printed in the Golden Age (forerunner of the Awake) but NOT from the staff writers, but from out side sources of article by medical doctors at the time and others that responded to those articles.

RE: ORGAN TRANSPLANTS: Organ transplants were never forbidden by the Society. Like vaccinations, organ transplants have always been up to the individual.

Is he right or wrong?

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Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

by Chickenlips in

jw
friends

just wanted to say hey.

i’m in australia.

i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Phil,

I too watch Eric Wilson's videos. Many are excellent. And Ding is right, The question is not where else, .but to who else. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and The Life.

Congratulations for having the courage to do the research that led you to where you are now.

Don't be depressed; Jesus loves you to death and His Word will continue to set you free.

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Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

by Chickenlips in

jw
friends

just wanted to say hey.

i’m in australia.

i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

Vanderhoven7

Congratulations and Welcome to the forum Phil! Happy for the fact that you have at least one family member you can share with.

Hope to hear more about your awakening.

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Elders confidential September

by Mikejw in

for elders.

announcements and reminders.

september 2022.

Vanderhoven7

Thanks for sharing (leaking) this confidential material Mike.

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Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

by Sea Breeze in

examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

- 2 cor.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Smiles,

I don't see believers needing to summon Jesus to do what He says He will do. This is gospel and Christians are united in believing what Jesus says and accomplished. I was listening this morning, to a wonderful rendition of, "My Faith Has Found a Resting Place"; the chorus of which goes like this.

I need no other argument

I need no other plea,

It is enough that Jesus died,

And that He died for me.

Try https://youtu.be/cTdTU7mYFEg

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Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

by Sea Breeze in

examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

- 2 cor.

Vanderhoven7

Now i understand why you don't believe that Jesus can be in two places at once- in the heart of all believers and guiding their fellowship whenever they meet together in His name....and that's because you don't believe He exists.

OK.

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Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

by Sea Breeze in

examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

- 2 cor.

Vanderhoven7

Smiles

Do you believe that Jesus is really there in the midst of multiple believers meeting in His name?