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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Who else could it be?

  No, Jesus wouldn't have chosen them according to Mark Jones.

  • He questioned those claiming to be Jehovah’s representatives and criticized their interpretation of scripture.

  

  • He sought out sinners and mixed with them.

  

  • He ate with tax collectors and sinners, and even made one of them an apostle.

  

  • He befriended a prostitute.

  

  • He conversed with Satan himself.

  

  • He called out the pharisees for practicing disfellowshipping and shunning.

  

  • He called out the Pharisees for adding laws upon laws.

  

  These are the things Jehovah’s Witnesses are told NOT to do,

  
  Footnotes

  [1] https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1999283#h=17:0-24:339

  [2] https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1961482?q=bad+association+friends&p=par

  [3] https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/gods-love/disfellowshipped-person/

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  Why are so many Jehovah’s Witnesses Angry and Rude?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do you think many jws are hostile and rude?

  or is that just my imagination?.

  mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.

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  I find that many Witnesses have a very thin veneer of patience which is easily penetrated when their beliefs are carefully questioned. That is when the ad hominem attacks are launched.
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  Avoiding Temptation As a Young Elder

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was the summer of '72.

  i was 24 but had been the presiding overseer or congregation servant of a small congregation in the county seat of an arkansas county for about 3 years.. my regular pioneer wife of nearly four years was big and pregnant, with our attempts at birth control unsuccessful.. one of my wife's several bible studies was with a young woman named brenda whom my wife had encountered in door to door work.. brenda had two young children she could barely handle and was married to a very countryfied arkie named henry who worked as a chicken catcher, one of the most difficult jobs at the local chicken plant.. brenda eventually revealed that she'd been raised as a jw, but was never baptized, having left home to marry henry at age 14. she spoke of her family in texas, mentioning her mother and two older sisters, all jws she said.. one morning, just before the meeting for field service, we noticed a small car in kingdom hall parking lot.

  my wife and i were parked to one side of the hall in our aluminum nashua house trailer.. two young women got out of the car and soon joined us for the meeting for service, identifying themselves as brenda's sisters from texas.. the two girls, ages 17 and 20, were distractingly beautiful, with the eldest decked out like a magnificent southern belle including hat and heels, her high-end clothing accentuating her very obvious curves.. with no one else showing up for field service, it ended up just the four of us in the car group with the two texas girls in the back seat.. starting our time at a not-at-home, the 20 year old asked if she could accompany me to "hear my presentation.

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  You did dodge a bullet my friend. The man of God is instructed to Flee fornication. Wise advice in my books. Many men of God might also be tempted to fantasize about these kind of experiences after the fact.
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  Romans 10:9, 13 Identifying Jesus as Jehovah?

  by Daniel Michaels in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the use of the divine name in the nwtcgs

  romans 10:9, 13

  identifying jesus as jehovah

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  You are right...."Jehovah” Is not found on the lips of Jesus in the New Testament. Jesus addressed God as Father and instructed His disciples to do the same.

  Jehovah's Witnesses will say that Jesus must have spoken the name Jehovah because He made His Father's name known. The question is, how did He make His Father's name known … by teaching people how to spell and pronounce God's name correctly or by demonstrating His Father's love, character and person through teaching, healing and sacrificing His iife for sinners.

  The Pharisees knew and used God’s personal name, perhaps incessantly, but it did them absolutely no good because they did not know God as Father, nor Jesus as Lord and Savior.

  
  
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  Why are so many Jehovah’s Witnesses Angry and Rude?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do you think many jws are hostile and rude?

  or is that just my imagination?.

  mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.

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  Why do you think many JWs are hostile and rude? Or is that just my imagination?

  Mark Jones writes: The vast majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses are nice people. They strive to be honest and try their best to do what they’ve been told their god wants them to do.

  The angry, hostile and rude Jehovah’s Witnesses you find on forums are not representative of the whole bunch. They’re not even supposed to be on here as their leaders forbid it. They’re often committing a disfellowshipping offense by communicating with former members - the irony is lost upon them.

  The reasons they’re rude is due to one or more of the following factors:

  • Critiquing the organization feels like a personal attack. This is common of cult members.
  • They know it’s not the truth. But they’ve invested so much time, energy and effort into it that they’re playing out a sunk cost fallacy. If they leave, they have to acknowledge that they’ve wasted their lives and achieved nothing in all that time.
  • Jealousy. We’re living happy, fulfilling lives and they’ve been told to wait until after Armageddon before they get to live their lives.
  • They believe themselves to be intelligent but passed up going to University because Armageddon was supposed to have come by now. "
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  New Here!

  by puppylove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, been lurking and decided to join in.. nice to see everyone from other forums, especially you, redhorsewoman!

  love,.

  puppylove.

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  Thanks for the background trivia Bill. Poor Ex-Mouseketeer Annette; what trials she endured.
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  Honest Hearted Ones

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there are certain wt terms that sound biblical but really just puff up the pride.

  hundreds of times the wt has used the term honest-hearted in their literature.

  it sounds biblical, if for no other reason because we hear it so often in jw circles.

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  Hate to contradict, but honest hearted ones is biblical.

  Luke 8:15 KJV — But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

  Of course JWs see themselves and their leaders in this light and all others who do not accept them and their message as anything but.

  Jesus chose and appointed those in Brooklyn in 1919 because of their doctrine and their honest hearts. Of course modern JWs usually can't name more that 2 of these appointees...so how can they know anything about the condition of their hearts. It's all speculation upon speculation.

  
  
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  New Here!

  by puppylove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, been lurking and decided to join in.. nice to see everyone from other forums, especially you, redhorsewoman!

  love,.

  puppylove.

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  The name Puppylove brought back a little nostalgia for this 75 year old.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-nw-AvWcbE
  
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  The position of Christ in the Godhead

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is your views on christ?.

  do you hold to the view that christ and the father are the same person?

  do you hold to the view that jesus is a lesser god than the father?.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching another gospel and another Jesus. A gospel that does not save 8.5 million members and a Created angelic Jesus that no one can even have a relationship with. There is something gravely wrong when your religion prohibits you from calling on the Jesus, sharing your burdens with Him and telling Him that you love Him for dying for your sins...and living a life of victory based on what He paid for.

  https://youtu.be/RQ33uSUWJjE
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  Romans 10:9, 13 Identifying Jesus as Jehovah?

  by Daniel Michaels in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the use of the divine name in the nwtcgs

  romans 10:9, 13

  identifying jesus as jehovah

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  Good point Ding!