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  How do Jehovah's Witnesses differ from first century Christians?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  let me start with a couple of distinctions.. first century christians:.

  1. baptized military personnel.. 2. baptized men with political authority.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Very impressive TBK.

  Just a couple of technical concerns

  Communal sharing was voluntary (Acts 5:4) and Paul's ministry was recognized by the Apostles. (2Peter 3:15-16)
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  How do Jehovah's Witnesses differ from first century Christians?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me start with a couple of distinctions.. first century christians:.

  1. baptized military personnel.. 2. baptized men with political authority.

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  Vanderhoven7

  So many good additions.

  12 First century Christians believed people could be saved simply by hearing and believing the gospel the Apostles preached.

  13. First century Christians were all born again children of God.
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  How do Jehovah's Witnesses differ from first century Christians?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me start with a couple of distinctions.. first century christians:.

  1. baptized military personnel.. 2. baptized men with political authority.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Let me start with a couple of distinctions.

  First century Christians:

  1. baptized military personnel.

  2. baptized men with political authority.
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  Christmas, yes or no ?

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
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  i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

  christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

  however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.

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  @ Sloppyjoe2

  I don't know any christmas songs

  Well then, let me introduce you to a great Christmas carol to start you off.

  Enjoy

  https://youtu.be/Bbu6AII10Pk
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Punky,

  "...teaching them not to observe everything I have commanded you..."

  JWs are preaching a false gospel which does not save them and unrelatable Jesus whose blood does not apply.

  Sad really.
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  List of Things We Were NOT Allowed To Do as JW's

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. friends

  here's my list of jw no-no's as i recall: .

  1. no giving or accepting valentine candy for students.

  2. no going to home coming football games.

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  Vanderhoven7

  no hypnosis

  worldly psychiatrists dangerous
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  Vanderhoven7

  The Question is:

  Is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses committing Blasphemy?

  (99+) Is the Governing Body Committing Blasphemy | Jeffrey Thomas - Academia.edu
  
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  @Fisherman

  All I said was “refers”.And there are good reasons to believe WT interpretation of the verse.

  Really? What are the good reasons to accept the WTS interpretation that the Faithful Slave started as a small group of men chosen in 1919 at Brooklyn headquarters and that every Christian has to put their trust in their current successors or be destroyed at Armageddon?

  I hope this is convincing Fishy, because I don't want to be destroyed at Armageddon for missing what is scripturally obvious to you.
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  @Punko

  Yes, and the Bible teaches the Faithful Slave would be a small group of men chosen in 1919 at Brooklyn headquarters and that every Christian would have to put their trust in these men since Jesus does, or be destroyed at Armageddon. It's obviously your moral duty to recognize this F&DS. Examine their record if you still are not sure.
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  An interesting Observation of some Bibles

  by Blotty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  first of all, hi, i go by blotty on this website :) i am someone who has a passion for the bible and like to get a as balanced view as i can from the trinitarian and the jw (or unitarian) side - even though i come off as leaning towards one or the other at times, in my opinion they both have merits in certain cases..if this is in the wrong section i apologise - this is just something i found interesting.iv seen online a lot that say the watchtower and tract society "invented" the link between proverbs 8:22 - 30 and jesus (the word).

  yet interestingly some "mainstream" "trinitarian- aimed" translations are cross referencing the following:source:https://www.biblegateway.comprov 8:22 cr rev 3:14niv, gnt,esv, nasb, nasb1995, nasbre, cevprov 8:30 cr john 1:1,2 esv nasbprov 8:30 cr john 1:3esvnasb1995nasb(this list is by no means complete)if this is simply wisdom, why is it referenced with jesus (or the word)?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Bloty,

  Welcome to the forum by the way!

  The problem JWs had until 1954 was constantly being accused of worshipping two gods. After receiving new light in 1954 they now only worship one god through a god, Jesus aka Michael the archangel. Problem solved!