Posts by Vanderhoven7

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What hymns will you never hear sung in Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Vanderhoven7 in

for sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below.

do you know others?.

https://youtu.be/gkovqfcdegu.

Vanderhoven7

Hi George,

What turned you off at 30 second mark, the exuberance of the choir or the lyrics? Here are the lyrics; what would you not sing yourself with less passion perhaps?

1 All hail the power of Jesus' name!
Let angels prostrate fall.
Bring forth the royal diadem,
and crown him Lord of all.
Bring forth the royal diadem,
and crown him Lord of all!

2 O seed of Israel's chosen race
now ransomed from the fall,
hail him who saves you by his grace,
and crown him Lord of all.
Hail him who saves you by his grace,
and crown him Lord of all!

3 Let every tongue and every tribe
responsive to his call,
to him all majesty ascribe,
and crown him Lord of all.
To him all majesty ascribe,
and crown him Lord of all!

4 Oh, that with all the sacred throng
we at his feet may fall!
We'll join the everlasting song
and crown him Lord of all.
We'll join the everlasting song
and crown him Lord of all.

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How are things in bethel right now?

by Hellothere in

any news how things are at bethel just now?

been thinking, strange they have gb members giving speeches when they look so depressed.

but maeby there is not many others too choose from.

Vanderhoven7

This is not the time to question the decisions of the Faithful Slave. Why not? Anthony has the answer.

https://youtu.be/BPnHgzGYy0k

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What hymns will you never hear sung in Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Vanderhoven7 in

for sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below.

do you know others?.

https://youtu.be/gkovqfcdegu.

Vanderhoven7

For sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below. Do you know others?

https://youtu.be/GKOVqFcdEgU

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Are the teachings of JW—consistent?

by Fisherman in

i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.

—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.

i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.

Vanderhoven7

Fisherman

It seems that the Watchtower Ship is consistently tacking yet never arriving at the truth.

What specific truth or truths have Jehovah's Witnesses consistently proclaimed that make their organization essential to salvation?

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

I have struggled with this since I had a neighbor (a liberal Lutheran) who chose MAiD. We visited him days before his departure. We talked gospel with him but were not judgmental about his decision-making.

I don't think MAiD is the unforgivable sin. I think there are justifiable reasons to terminate one's life prematurely although they may be rare. Those jumping from twin-tower windows in NY to avoid the pain of the inescapable is one such example.

I'm reminded of a movie I saw where a group of Americans were being chased by Amazonian tribesmen. Almost all escaped in a small boat to their ship. One was caught on the shore and the chief began slicing every inch of his body while he screamed in pain with every slice. From the ship, a fellow escapee picked up a rifle and shot his suffering friend in the head much to the wrath of the chief. The shooter was later tried for murder. I forgot how the trial ended, but I'm sure everyone watching the episode was relieved by the shooting

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

Excellent find Blondie.

I wonder if "mercy killing" goes on in our hospitals rather regularly. As the end approaches for the elderly, does ramping up their morphine contribute to a speedy death?

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

Hi Waton,

Perhaps JWs in desperate need of a blood transfusion could be labeled suicidal, but I don't see Christ as suicidal. Examining His prayer in Gethsemane would suggest otherwise. Martyrdom would be a more fitting description.

Does Watchtower hold that there are circumstances where MAiD is justified?

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

A little background and church response

https://www.faithtoday.ca/Magazines/2022-May-Jun/Navigating-Medical-Assistance-in-Dying

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What does Watchtower think of being Medically Assisted in Death (MAiD)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

there has been much political controversy in canada over the acceptability of maid.

what, if anything, has watchtower said about this issue?.

Vanderhoven7

There has been much political controversy in Canada over the acceptability of MAiD. What, if anything, has Watchtower said about this issue?

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Trinity

by Lost in the fog in

bumped into a former jw friend who since departing has joined a protestant church.. his explanation of the trinity is "think of the congregation service committee in the jw religion, the three people who locally made all of the decisions affecting the congregation.".

three people each with their own personality who individually were seen as the coordinator, the service overseer, and the secretary.

but who made decisions as a combined unit.. so on the midweek meeting it was announced that "the service committee has approved the following..." .

Vanderhoven7

Yes, where would we be without the Slave to tell us what to believe and how to dress?