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  Tony Morris in jail!

  by BoogerMan in

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  the voices are excellent.

  (or is ai being used?).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvoy4tvubf4&t=208s.

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  Not a bad impression of Tony's voice. Perhaps a little slower would help.

  Stephen Let would have to practice exaggerating his mouth movements to sound more authentic.

  I'm looking forward to the sequels.
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  Unbelief and Salvation

  by lriddle80 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hebrews 6:4-8. for it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the holy spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of god and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the son of god to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.

  7 for land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from god.

  8 but if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.. but then i read articles that say that you cannot lose your salvation and that this scripture isn't talking about that.. but then 2 timothy says.

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  I like your tenacious Spirit Lori.

  Your testimony reminded me of a bumper sticker my Dad had on his car. It said "After Religion, Try Jesus "
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  My defense speech before the judicial committee

  by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers!.

  we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

  it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

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  @Disfellowshipped-Brother

  <<I have started to understand my Bible! I read it more than ever, and now it truly has a positive impact on my life!>>

  Glad to hear you didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
  
  
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  Unbelief and Salvation

  by lriddle80 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hebrews 6:4-8. for it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the holy spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of god and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the son of god to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.

  7 for land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from god.

  8 but if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.. but then i read articles that say that you cannot lose your salvation and that this scripture isn't talking about that.. but then 2 timothy says.

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  Reminds me of the time Ned Flanders had a nervous breakdown. He asked God - why, since he believed everything the Bible says...even the parts that contradict the other parts.

  My take is that people can kick a hole in the ark if they want. Contrary to Reformed Theology, free will got us in and free will can take us out.

  However, nothing external to ourselves can separate us from the love of God in Christ. Romans 8:39
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  My defense speech before the judicial committee

  by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers!.

  we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

  it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

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  It seems that Disfellowshipped-Brother has left the building. He may have initially thought this was a WTS recognized site.
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  Justification

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the..."other sheep...are...not even justified".

  - wt 1938 pg.

  jw's are internationally famous for rejecting the new covenant "for the forgiveness of sins" (mt.

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  Yes, ask them first if they have peace with God?

  They will answer yes, they have the peace of God.

  That's not what I'm asking...then turn to Roman's 5:1 (I.e. peace with God because of justification)

  Then verse 9
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  My defense speech before the judicial committee

  by Disfellowshipped-Brother in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers!.

  we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.

  it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Hi Disfellowshipped-brother

  Welcome to the forum!

  "Romans 8:28"

  Perhaps your being disfellowshipped is a part of the fulfillment of Romans 8:28 in your case. If you love Jehovah and His Son Jesus then you have eternal life with or without the approval of men in your congregation who are not led by the Spirit of Christ. John 17:3

  Please hang around this forum for a while and get a better picture of what free exchange is all about.
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  How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

  "do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

  when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

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  How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

  "do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

  when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

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  Excellent additions JWGB!
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  How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

  "do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

  when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.

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  There is no such thing as the right or one true religion. No doubt some churches have more truth than others, but JWs are missing the boat totally.
  

  Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ which Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden to have. They cannot address their Michael the archangel to say, "Thank you for saving me and forgiving all of my sins!" first of all because they are not saved (which they admit) and secondly because their Jesus is not entitled to direct communication.