Posts by Vanderhoven7

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WT History Video

by Vanderhoven7 in

here is a clear presentation of watchtower history.

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https://youtu.be/u5jnngqqyvc?si=lbuyopdr-n5sji47.

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Here is a clear presentation of Watchtower History.

https://youtu.be/u5JnngqQYvc?si=LbUyoPDr-N5sjI47

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JW.ORG Needs Lawyers

by Vanderhoven7 in

jehovah's witnesses are not encouraging university education... but those who are lawyers already can apply to volunteer to help at bethel.. https://youtu.be/5d_-1lbg-oc?si=fsxeewic-fkczu9p.

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Jehovah's Witnesses are not encouraging University Education... but those who are lawyers already can apply to volunteer to help at Bethel.

https://youtu.be/5d_-1LBG-Oc?si=fsxEEwic-fkCZu9P

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You may not have read the Apologist version of 607 b.c.e.

by Terry in

jerusalem 607 bce vindicatedapostates and other opposers argue that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 bce, but in 587 bce, and provide what they claim is archaeological evidence to support this.

read this chapter.... 5: servitude to the king of babylon for 70 years?.

read this chapter.... 9: the 70 years for tyre.

Jeremiah predicted that Israel would be freed from Babylonian captivity after 70 years (Jer 25:11, 12). Daniel 9 begins with Daniel noticing this prophecy (Dan 9:2). He then prayed earnestly for his people Israel. In this way, the 70 years set the stage for Daniel’s prayer and for the subsequent prophecy. Where do we find these 70 years in history?

The prophecy of Daniel 9 was received after the Babylonian Empire was already defeated by the Medo-Persian Empire (Dan 9:1). Have the 70 years already come to an end at that time?. And when did it begin?

Jerusalem was destroyed in BC 586/587 but that was not the beginning of the 70 years because the 70 years were not the period of Jerusalem’s desolation. It was the period of Babylonian rule (Jer 25:11). The 70 years, therefore, run from 609 BC, when Babylonians finally defeated Assyria, until 539 BC, when Cyrus conquered Babylon.

The detailed article is available here.
To the list of articles at the top.

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The Pharisaical Persuasion

by Vanderhoven7 in

the pharisaical persuasion by stephane maillet.

the jews searched the scriptures daily because they thought salvation was within themselves.

they knew the law yet interpreted the text to their desires, burdening the people with heavy traditions and ordinances.

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The Pharisaical Persuasion by Stephane Maillet

The Jews searched the Scriptures daily because they thought salvation was within themselves. They knew the law yet interpreted the text to their desires, burdening the people with heavy traditions and ordinances. They did these things through their academic prestige and charm; they went to the "right Bible school." These were known in the community as the religious leaders trusted and obeyed; they had made themselves to be the gatekeepers. They controlled the people and hated anyone who tried to remove their intimidation, hence their murderous plots against Jesus.

If you give Devils enough time, they'll have you believing clearly written Bible verses don't mean what they so plainly teach. The purpose behind the agenda is to have us dependent on the Pharisees, which is to have us controlled and incapable of trusting our minds. These manipulators can captivate us into various divisive errors and bitter behaviours. They love the praise of men, and they love your money; pride is their conductor. They will put out the faithful and devour the idle. They will take meticulous time to infiltrate your life and befriend you for their advantage. We do not speak of those commonly known to be outside but of those since crept in unnoticed: evil workers.

Dear friends, God gave us accountable and independent thought. We can see the truth without any Tyrant being the key holder; we need no "judges." Try reaching out to humble and credible souls for questions; some good brethren love Jesus and will love you. Open the Bible and begin to read; read slowly without distraction, and take the time to soak in the context. You will be significantly fascinated by the information that has since been withheld from you. The pure Gospel will liberate you from all toxic individuals and beliefs if you receive it humbly.

Does "The Pharisaical Persuasion" remind you of anyone?

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

Vanderhoven7

For those who are interested in Matthew 24

https://beroeans.net/2019/09/25/examining-matthew-24-part-1-the-question/

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

Vanderhoven7

Mr. Wilson has excellent videos on Matthew 24. I say that for the most part, because we are in agreement on this critical chapter. I think he is doing God's will to the best of his ability...but I think he would be better off not showing contempt for the Trinity....eternal torment, yes, Trinity, no.

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Do you play the LOTTERY?

by Fisherman in

jw view gambling as a sin and sadly people get addicted to gambling causing them financial and health problems.

but is playing a couple of bucks a week on some lottery tickets actually gambling?

what do you have to lose?

Vanderhoven7

Nope.

By the way, isn't gambling a disfellowshipping offense?

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Sign of the Last Days

by Fisherman in

in the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?

using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?

how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.

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@Konagirl

Jesus was clearly talking about the stones of the literal temple. Find me one Bible scholar which thinks otherwise. Even the Watchtower admits this.

The following is an excerpt from The Watchtower of May 1, 1999 (p. 11,12) which contains some elements of sound interpretation.

In the years leading up to 66 C.E., Christians would have seen many of the preliminary elements of the composite sign being fulfilled-wars, famines, even an extensive preaching of the good news of the Kingdom. (Acts 11:28; Colossians 1:23) When, though, would the end come? What did Jesus mean when he said: 'This generation [Greek, ge.ne.a'] will not pass away'? Jesus had often called the contemporaneous mass of opposing Jews, including religious leaders, 'a wicked, adulterous generation.' (Matthew 11:16; 12:39, 45; 16:4; 17:17; 23:36) So when, on the Mount of Olives, he again spoke of "this generation," he evidently did not mean the entire race of Jews throughout history; nor did he mean his followers, even though they were "a chosen race." (1 Peter 2:9) Neither was Jesus saying that "this generation" is a period of time.

Rather, Jesus had in mind the opposing Jews back then who would experience the fulfillment of the sign he gave. Regarding the reference to "this generation" at Luke 21:32, Professor Joel B. Green notes: "In the Third Gospel, 'this generation' (and related phrases) has regularly signified a category of people who are resistant to the purpose of God. . . . [It refers] to people who stubbornly turn their backs on the divine purpose." *

The wicked generation of Jewish opposers who could observe the sign being fulfilled would also experience the end. (Matthew 24:6, 13, 14) And that they did! In 70 C.E., the Roman army returned, led by Titus, son of Emperor Vespasian. The suffering of the Jews who were again bottled up in the city is almost beyond belief." Eyewitness Flavius Josephus reports that by the time the Romans demolished the city, about 1,100,000 Jews had died and some 100,000 were taken captive, most of those soon to perish horribly from starvation or in Roman theaters. Truly, the tribulation of 66-70 C.E. was the greatest that Jerusalem and the Jewish system had ever experienced or would ever experience. How different the outcome was for Christians who had heeded Jesus' prophetic warning and had left Jerusalem after the departure of the Roman armies in 66 C.E.!

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Beroean Pickets

by joe134cd in

hi i've been reading a web sight called borean pickets.

http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/09/may-tv-broadcast-on-tv-jw-org/.

although the guy writes some real thought provoking stuff, i sort of don't know what to make of it.

Vanderhoven7

I think Eric Wilson is doing a great job exposing WT errors and harmful practices. He was a former elder who was disfellowshipped. He is critical of eternal torment teaching and is opposed to the Trinity but promotes the Bible as God's word and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as God's Son.

He is not perfect; has some rough edges so-to-speak and I question his physical health right now.

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Who will Survive Armageddon?

by Vanderhoven7 in

breaking news....there is hope for good hearted non-jws!!!.

according to sergio:.

are jehovah's witnesses the only ones to be saved during the end time?.

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According to their literature, ONLY Jehovah's Witnesses and those associated with the Watchtower Organization can expect to survive the big A.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19

"During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known God's righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?"

"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

"... to leave Jehovah's organization ... we would lose not only the privilege of doing God's will but also the hope of life in God's new world." Watchtower 2016 Jun study ed p.26

"But if we were to draw away from Jehovah's organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy." Watchtower 1993 Sep 15 p.22
"They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah's organization is essential to their salvation." Kingdom Ministry 1990 Nov p.1

"At this stage of the affairs of man, it is absolutely impossible for anyone, professed Christian or otherwise, to stand independently of the one organisation that is bearing witness worldwide to Jehovah, his goodness and supremacy in accord with the 145th Psalm and, in fact, in accord with all the Scriptures." Yearbook 1982 p.259