Since Jehovah directed us to stop requiring monthly publisher reporting as of November, we cannot provide an up-to-date accurate annual service report, now can we?. As a result annual reporting is discontinued unless Jehovah changes his mind again and we can require monthly publisher service reporting again. And don't think that we stopped the necessity of publisher reporting because our numbers are declining and we don't want you to know it. Apostates will no doubt capitalize on this with their lies.
Vanderhoven7
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Where’s the 2023 Service Report?
by slimboyfat inwhat’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
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ExJW from La France !
by jwrogue1914 inlong time lurker here.
i've been out for 8 years this very month.
today is an important date for me because i'm posting on this forum for the first time and i just post my first video on youtube yesterday (channel : jw rogue) the channel is in french but you can activate the subtiles.
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Vanderhoven7
Welcome back to the forum jwrogue
I will check out your channel.
Be blessed.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Sinner's Prayer
by NotFormer ini've noted before certain similarities between jws and independent fundamentalist baptists, such as door to door work.
the ifbs call it "soul winning".
the goal is usually to give a quick tour of a few bible verses, get the householder to "repeat after me" a formulaic prayer confessing faith in jesus.
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Vanderhoven7
Hmmm...Are people saved by:
faith alone
faith plus works
works alone
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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”
by FFGhost inso, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
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Vanderhoven7
The WTS preaching effort was always useless propaganda peddling anyway. The millions who died between 1920 and 2023 are just about all going to be resurrected and given a chance to merit eternal life because they paid for their sins by their death. So they didn't need to hear any message from JWs at all.
And now those with good hearts who die after the GT starts will also be raised. But those who had a lengthy Bible study with Witnesses and rejected their message will probably be destroyed during the GT or at Armageddon.
So, no matter how you cut it, their message itself saves no one, not even those who receive it , and only serves to condemn those who don't.
No one ever needed to become a JW to make it into the New System.
Stop preaching and save lives JWs.
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The GB again claiming earthquakes prove it's the last days
by joey jojo infrom jw org; 2023 - a year of anxiety:.
“since the beginning of 2023, there have now been 13 earthquakes above magnitude 7 worldwide, one of the highest values since records began.”.
www.earthquakes.bgs.ac.uk cites 3 reasons it may seem that earthquakes are increasing in intensity and number.. 1. more population growth = more people affected.. 2. clustered statistics.
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Vanderhoven7
Newspaper exegesis proves that Jesus returned in 1914 and we are in the last part of the last day.
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"We're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days....
by Ron.W. in"we're living in the final part of the last days, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days, shortly before the last day of the last days!!!".
how are they going to phrase this in ten years time......
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My decision.
by MissDaSilva ini’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
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Vanderhoven7
Congratulations MissDaSilva!!
@ WC
The Faithful Slave certainly acts as if they are the mediator between the other sheep and Jehovah. I have not found quotations from the literature stating that directly but I keep looking though.
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Why disfellowship must be eliminated for the survival of the WT itself
by TheScientist inthis topic i digress about why the watchtower relaxing the rules of disfellowship is essential for its survival.
many things i'm going to say are not my ideas, some are, the point is, i'm condensing everything in a logical and concise way.. the first thing we have to keep in mind is that the wt's main objective in instituting disfellowship has always been not to lose members because of the damage that a dissident could do, or to avoid gaining new members because of the bad reputation of a confessed sinner in the his/her region.
in the end, the more active members, the more money to the coffers.. in this case of disfellowship due to apostasy, to avoid any spark, texts were sought out of context that even prohibited saying "hi".
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Vanderhoven7
A message to the rank and file:
No one can leave Jehovah's Witnesses with their reputation intact.
Once a Jehovah's Witness, you had better stay a Jehovah's Witness or you will lose your family and friends and be shunned till your death unless you come crawling back to the organization pretending you believe their nonsense again.
Worldly governments are being alerted to this fact and will turn on the organization for it's uncharitable treatment of former members and withdraw financial support and taxation benefits.
And the GB have the nerve to call this bullying behavior a loving provision. Even the world, every democratic society can see the shunning of former members as cruelty.
Jehovah's Witnesses, this controlling behavior will come to an end real soon. The faithful slave will suddenly get new light from Jehovah in the very near future telling you not to shun people who leave the religion since they are no longer viewed as “Christians” and Christians are not instructed to shun non-Christians.
And of course there will be no apologies made
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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness
by Ron.W. ina slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.
elder: 'yes.
i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!
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Vanderhoven7
Grant Davies contribution:
All the historical evidence points to 587 BCE as being the destruction of Jerusalem.
We all have access to a copy of “Shepherd the flock of God” book; it’s not secret.
My child decided to disassociate but it’s their decision and I won’t shun them.
My wife can wear trousers to the meeting if she wants.
Do you like my tattoo?
I don’t only stand at a cart; I do real charity work.
I’ve always been able to wear a beard with no problems.
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55 Year Cycle shows up in March 2024 Watchtower
by was a new boy indid they hope that everybody who read the1969 awake as a kid is too senile to remember?.
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Vanderhoven7
Ding wrote: What those now dead WT authors wrote proves conclusively that the WT religion is not the truth. Should we ignore that?
You: i must be missing something here.
Perhaps the sarcasm?
The resurrection of the anointed Christians, who number 144,000, is to spirit life in heaven and it began to occur in 1918 C.E., after the establishment of the heavenly Kingdom in 1914.“ WT June 1, 1970 p. 331 "Faith to the Preserving Alive of the Soul”
“In 1918 he (the apostle Peter) was resurrected to the heavens along with the other faithful members of Christ’s congregation who had died prior to that time. “(WT February 15, 1966 p. 123 “Does Peter Now Use the Keys of the Kingdom?”
“Those who died prior to the establishment of the Kingdom were resurrected at the time of Jehovah's coming to the temple with his messenger of the covenant in 1918.” WT 67 8/1 p. 455 A New Administration of Earth's Affairs
“The Watchtower has long presented the view that this resurrection of anointed Christians from death commenced in the year 1918.” WT 86 10/1 p. 14 Comfort From the God of Peace