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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

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  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Here is one exemplary brother who has adjusted.

  

  This was posted on another thread but I thought it worth replication.
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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Thanks for the good report. I'm hoping for similar hemorrhaging stats across the board.
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  Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

  by gavindlt in

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  so when was jesus begotten.

  was he truly and wholly fully human.

  did he exist in two states, part human part god.

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  Vanderhoven7

  The Bible answers your question in The prologue to John's gospel as follows.

  1¶In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

  2He was in the beginning with God.

  3All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

  4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

  5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehendfn it.
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  JWs And Superstitions

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  prompted by a mention in a different thread.. cracks in the sidewalk, a pinch of salt over the shoulder, black cats🐈‍⬛; do jws have such superstitious beliefs.

  are they allowed to?

  would they be counselled if the elders became aware?.

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  Vanderhoven7

  I don't see a demon behind every tree. I see demons behind almost every tree.
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

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  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  Vanderhoven7

  The November AGM in summation

  

  and to tell the truth, we never did.
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

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  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  Vanderhoven7

  Since the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world, He had to know before creating man

  God's Devil: The Incredible Story of How Satan's Rebellion Serves God's Purposes
  

  https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Devil-Incredible-Rebellion-Purposes/dp/0802413137#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

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  2. bible

  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  Vanderhoven7

  My take is that He knew. To be made in God's image required it, i.e., knowing and engaging with evil and overcoming.

  There is a book out entitled "God's Devil" that I believe shares this view.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Sinner's Prayer

  by NotFormer in

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  i've noted before certain similarities between jws and independent fundamentalist baptists, such as door to door work.

  the ifbs call it "soul winning".

  the goal is usually to give a quick tour of a few bible verses, get the householder to "repeat after me" a formulaic prayer confessing faith in jesus.

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  Vanderhoven7

  According to the Watchtower gospel neither faith nor works are needed to be saved, I.e., to make it into the new system.

  If you are just an average worldling, simply make sure you die before the GT and your death pays for all your sins. Yes and you will be raised with all the JWs who believed so hard in the Faithful Slave and worked tirelessly preaching the Organization message 10 hours a month for the last 50 years.

  So, for Jehovah’s Witnesses, salvation is by faith plus works.

  For the average Joe it's salvation by dying.

  The past 100 years of preaching were a waste of time.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

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  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Vanderhoven7

  Since Jehovah directed us to stop requiring monthly publisher reporting as of November, we cannot provide an up-to-date accurate annual service report, now can we?. As a result annual reporting is discontinued unless Jehovah changes his mind again and we can require monthly publisher service reporting again. And don't think that we stopped the necessity of publisher reporting because our numbers are declining and we don't want you to know it. Apostates will no doubt capitalize on this with their lies.
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  ExJW from La France !

  by jwrogue1914 in

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  long time lurker here.

  i've been out for 8 years this very month.

  today is an important date for me because i'm posting on this forum for the first time and i just post my first video on youtube yesterday (channel : jw rogue) the channel is in french but you can activate the subtiles.

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  Vanderhoven7

  Welcome back to the forum jwrogue

  I will check out your channel.

  Be blessed.