Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Faithful Slave Appointment: What are the assumptions of Watchtower Matthew 24:45-47 Eschatology?

by Vanderhoven7 in

text: matthew 24:45-47.

45 “who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46 it will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.

Vanderhoven7

@Konagirl

That Jesus did employ satire at times is quite evident in the gospels. Examples of this include, Matthew 9:13, where Jesus exempts the Pharisees from His redemptive plan because He only came for sinners, not “the righteous” and again in Luke 13:13 where Jesus ironically expresses that prophets cannot possibly perish anywhere except in Jerusalem. Also in Matthew 22:23-33, Jesus silences the Sadducees on the question of the resurrection by expanding upon the nature of angels (verse 30). I don’t think for a moment that Jesus was seriously trying to convince the Sadducees of something they did not believe in by elaborating upon something else they equally dismissed as nonexistent.

In order to establish that the literary form of Lazarus and the Rich Man is satire, or more particularly, a parody, there must be clear evidence that:

a. A common or "well known story line is being imitated".

b. irony is employed; that the story’s outcome is changed such that there is clear “incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the expected result”

c. the unexpected results "highlight human stupidity" or corruption.

d. "a comic end is served", the purpose of which is to cause listeners "to detach sympathies from certain people (groups), to judge their actions and to see the absurdity in their behavior…

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Faithful Slave Appointment: What are the assumptions of Watchtower Matthew 24:45-47 Eschatology?

by Vanderhoven7 in

text: matthew 24:45-47.

45 “who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46 it will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.

Vanderhoven7

Actually, Hades fire was the teaching of the Pharisees, a place where sinners would suffer from blasts of heat and cold, from burning coals in mouths that spoke blasphemy, lisencious men hanging from genitals etc. Jesus used their own ridiculous teachings in satire to counter their justification for not lifting a finger to help the poor.

The Pharisees were not permitted to help the poor in the slightest because such would be countering God’s judgment. Accept God’s redemptive judgment and you will be rewarded in Abraham's Bosom in the afterlife. In Luke 16 Jesus has Abraham turning the tables on the Pharisees in the afterlife as they end up in the very hell they warned the common people to avoid for no reason other than they had good things in life. This is obviously a parody.

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Faithful Slave Appointment: What are the assumptions of Watchtower Matthew 24:45-47 Eschatology?

by Vanderhoven7 in

text: matthew 24:45-47.

45 “who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46 it will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.

Vanderhoven7

Right on Terry

Re: Extra-biblical Assumptions:

The Faithful Slave:

1. was appointed.

2. was appointed invisibly

3. was appointed in 1919.

4. was appointed in Brooklyn New York

5. included Joseph F. Rutherford and other Bible Students who were Watchtower directors.

6. was appointed because Watchtower directors were faithfully teaching the truth.

7.

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Faithful Slave Appointment: What are the assumptions of Watchtower Matthew 24:45-47 Eschatology?

by Vanderhoven7 in

text: matthew 24:45-47.

45 “who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46 it will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.

Vanderhoven7

TEXT: Matthew 24:45-47

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

WT Eschatological Interpretation of the text:

The Faithful Slave was appointed in New York in 1919 at Watchtower Headquarters…invisibly of course.

This Slave happened to include at least 7 Watchtower directors as well as Joseph Rutherford, the then president of the Society.

The Faithful Slave appointment was passed on to all subsequent Watchtower directors so that today the current 9 man Governing Body is the Slave. If you don't trust them, you don't trust Jehovah.

Who else could the Faithful Slave be? If you don't believe this and obey the Slave, you will be destroyed at Armageddon… unless you die before the great tribulation starts and then you get an automatic pass into paradise.

So hurry and come to Jehovah's Organization for salvation before it is too late.

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Ever changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

some might be interested in this comprehensive list of changes and reversals in the channel of truth.. reading history:.

ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses.

the most important changes in the doctrine of the watchtower society in the years 1879-2015. .

Vanderhoven7

Thanks Atlantis!

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Ever changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

some might be interested in this comprehensive list of changes and reversals in the channel of truth.. reading history:.

ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses.

the most important changes in the doctrine of the watchtower society in the years 1879-2015. .

Vanderhoven7

Some might be interested in this comprehensive list of changes and reversals in the channel of truth.

Reading History:

Ever-changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses. The most important changes in the doctrine of the Watchtower Society in the years 1879-2015

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The ORG'S "foundation" name............

by BoogerMan in

.........jehovah.. the bible's foundation name - (1 corinthians 3:11) "for no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is jesus christ.".

the org's chosen name for christians - "jehovah's witnesses.".

jehovah's chosen name for christians - acts 11:26 - "...the disciples were by divine providence called christians.".

Vanderhoven7

Hi Duran,

How does knowing and using the Hebrew name of God and His Son matter or help?

If the Pharisees knew and used the Hebrew name of God repeatedly, how would it have profited them?

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The ORG'S "foundation" name............

by BoogerMan in

.........jehovah.. the bible's foundation name - (1 corinthians 3:11) "for no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is jesus christ.".

the org's chosen name for christians - "jehovah's witnesses.".

jehovah's chosen name for christians - acts 11:26 - "...the disciples were by divine providence called christians.".

Vanderhoven7

@Seabreeze:

Thanks for sharing your testimony.

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How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

by BoogerMan in

(revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

Vanderhoven7

Partial Preterism makes the most sense to me. Matthew 24:1-35 applies to Christ's coming in judgment on Jerusalem, verses 36 - end apply to His coming in world judgment.

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Satan's Organization -- Who -- Evidence of Identity?

by Marvin Shilmer in

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satan's organization -- who -- evidence of identity

w30 10/1 p. 301 millions of prisoners to hear the gospel***:

"satans organization claims to be gods organization, and persecutes those who are actually members of gods organization.

Vanderhoven7

TRT writes:

Do JWs consider the churches of Christendom satanic?

The TRUTH is YES. The doctrine of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, a publishing and real estate company, is that ALL religions are part of The Harlot depicted in the book of Revelation. JW believe that THEY are God’s only true religion on earth and EVERY SINGLE religion on earth, other than theirs, will be destroyed on the day of Armageddon by a group of “Anointed” persons, now in spirit form, led by Jesus.

They have an infinite number of pictorials in many of their literature; these images are pervasive, readily available and there for all to see including children of any age.

The interesting part is they can't see for themselves how crazy this is. They are not stupid people and you can have normal conversations about the crazy extremes “other” religions promote, (Mormons, Scientology, Amish, LDL) but the minute you point out their brand of crazy they turn off like a light switch.

I have learned a tremendous amount about the human mind and cognitive dissonance during the waking up process. My wife's inability to see reality fr what it is breath taking.