Posts by Vanderhoven7

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Waking Them Up When They Feel Safe

by KerryKing in

good morning all, i would love some genuine advice please.. i have an old friend who is still in the org, but has never been the very staunch type.

however, she is going through a very rough patch in life, (past deeds from youth caught up and now is in prison) and i reached out to her by old fashioned snail mail.. by her reply she sounds more pimi than ever and finding some sort of comfort in the literature.

would i be wrong to attempt to wake her up, would that actually be a cruel thing to do right now?

Vanderhoven7

JP writes:

The abundant life comes back to having a constant sense of God’s forgiveness over your life. Instead of taking in and harboring all the guilt, condemnation, and judgment, we need to stand secure in our perfect forgiveness in Jesus.

There is a redeeming quality to being forgiveness-conscious, as opposed to being conscious of your failings, sins, and mistakes. When you are forgiveness-conscious and see your failings on the cross of Jesus, you receive power to break out of your irritability, impatience, and short-temperedness with others. You receive power to break out of your eating disorders, addictions, and anxieties!

When you realize that we don’t deserve God’s forgiveness and grace yet He gives it to us anyway, this revelation of His unmerited favor changes us from within. It dissolves the knots of anger and impatience in us that have built up over the years and frees us to enjoy God’s love and to show it to others!

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JW org fighting Royal Commission of Inquiry 3 years, article by Anusha Bradley, RNZ

by EasyPrompt in

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/497240/jehovah-s-witness-church-spends-3-years-fighting-scrutiny-of-royal-commission-of-inquiry.

jehovah's witness church spends 3 years fighting scrutiny of royal commission of inquiry.

from article by anusha bradley, rnz.... .

Vanderhoven7

https://youtu.be/sIh9riC_U5o?si=B2PQGeWFZMACcn1h

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Waking Them Up When They Feel Safe

by KerryKing in

good morning all, i would love some genuine advice please.. i have an old friend who is still in the org, but has never been the very staunch type.

however, she is going through a very rough patch in life, (past deeds from youth caught up and now is in prison) and i reached out to her by old fashioned snail mail.. by her reply she sounds more pimi than ever and finding some sort of comfort in the literature.

would i be wrong to attempt to wake her up, would that actually be a cruel thing to do right now?

Vanderhoven7

She simply needs to hear the gospel of Christ's unfailing love and forgiveness of sins which are past, reiterated.

Encourage her to read the gospel of John over and over again.

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Disaster preparedness

by ElderBerry in

as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.

also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.

please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.

Vanderhoven7

Are go-bags also recommended because of the expected upcoming tribulation. Aren't JWs thinking about fleeing without time to prepare for their flight?

Matthew 24:16-17

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

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The self-appointed "slave" said this - in 1935

by BoogerMan in

watchtower august 15th 1935 - "...the greatest of all tribulations mentioned in the scriptures must come after the great multitude appears and must be that which is mentioned by christ jesus as “tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time.” that tribulation period began with the “day of jehovah”, to wit, in 1914, when the war started against satan’s organization in heaven, and reaches the great climax at the time of the battle of armageddon, the great day of god almighty.

110 years - and counting!.

other denominations claim the great tribulation is only going to last for 7 years.

Vanderhoven7

The Great Tribulation Jesus spoke about occurred from AD 66 to AD 70 after which the surviving Jews were dispersed among the nations.

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The Hell of the POMI!

by The Bethelite in

jw
friends

i called a jehovah's witness friend of mine a couple weeks ago, yes i still consider him a friend though he would not say the same of me.

i've known him for almost 40 years.

our families went on many vacations together including my only trip back to bethel in 1996. this trip was made with 40 other "brothers and sisters.

Vanderhoven7

Mark Jones was in hell for 32 years

I’ve been to hell.

In fact, I went three times a week, every week, for 2 hours each time.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a Jehovah’s Witness meeting in one of their Kingdom Halls.

The same narrative: Armageddon is just around the corner!! They’re all going to die except us because we peddle magazines like Jesus told us to!!

Day after day

Week after week

Month after month

Year after year

Sat on orange plastic seats in the middle of summer with no air-con, while the speaker drones on and on in a monotone voice.

I did 31 years. An eternity with Satan would be a walk in the park.

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Random thoughts of an ex-JW on a coffee break

by StarTrekAngel in

lately i have been finding myself doing a lot of thinking.

not that i am smarter than the keurig coffee maker in my office, which lately has made me reevaluate the perception of my professional career.

somewhere along the way between winding down my relationship with my now ex-boss and starting a new one with my current boss, i noticed that the machine complaints with a message on a touchscreen….

Vanderhoven7

Mark Jones writes

I’ve been to hell.

In fact, I went three times a week, every week, for 2 hours each time.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a Jehovah’s Witness meeting in one of their Kingdom Halls.

The same narrative: Armageddon is just around the corner!! They’re all going to die except us because we peddle magazines like Jesus told us to!!

Day after day

Week after week

Month after month

Year after year

Sat on orange plastic seats in the middle of summer with no air-con, while the speaker drones on and on in a monotone voice.

I did 31 years. An eternity with Satan would be a walk in the park.

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Q about Jesus' sacrifice

by oncebitten in

jw
friends

i have several jw family members.

i have been shunned many years now.

i was not baptized, but i was indoctrinated as a child.

Vanderhoven7

Yes, and even unbelieving Bart Ehrman admits there are no significant variations in the many ancient copies of New Testament documents. The New Testament is reliable.

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Q about Jesus' sacrifice

by oncebitten in

jw
friends

i have several jw family members.

i have been shunned many years now.

i was not baptized, but i was indoctrinated as a child.

Vanderhoven7

To my knowledge, as with the Old Testament manuscripts, there are no significant variations in the many ancient copies of New Testament documents.

Bart Ehrman writes: We have more manuscripts for the New Testament than for any other book from the ancient world—many, many more manuscripts than we have for the writings of Homer, Plato, Cicero, or any other important author. We have something like 5,700 manuscripts of the New Testament—from small fragments of tiny parts of a single book to complete copies of the entire New Testament – in the Greek language in which they were originally written, along with manuscripts in many other ancient languages (for example, Latin, Syriac, and Coptic). That is good news indeed—the more manuscripts you have, the more likely it is that you can figure out what the authors originally said.

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Q about Jesus' sacrifice

by oncebitten in

jw
friends

i have several jw family members.

i have been shunned many years now.

i was not baptized, but i was indoctrinated as a child.

Vanderhoven7

There is no original copy of any New Testament document.