it is a well known legal fact that in order to be a wittnesses that party must have a true and correct name on file with the court..so with no b.s. im stateing plain simple fact here jehovahs wittnesses are doing nothing more than runing a non profit organization, doing, bussiness as,[jehovahs wittnesses] because they do admit jehovah is not known to be gods real name but onley a ficticious name based on a guess! their claim of restoreing gods name has not and is not takeing place! they are simpley teaching people to use their product [gods name] until an improvment is found!
NO DIFFERANCE THAN MILLIONS OF OTHER BUSSINESS USEING A FICTICIOUS NAME TO MARKET THEIR PRODUCT. anybody out their have any thoughts? please for the sake of the facts stick to the topic. thanks
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wittnesses for who?
by arimatthewdavies init is a well known legal fact that in order to be a wittnesses that party must have a true and correct name on file with the court..so with no b.s.
im stateing plain simple fact here jehovahs wittnesses are doing nothing more than runing a non profit organization, doing, bussiness as,[jehovahs wittnesses] because they do admit jehovah is not known to be gods real name but onley a ficticious name based on a guess!
their claim of restoreing gods name has not and is not takeing place!
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the perfect church!
by arimatthewdavies inits sunday, oh joy we are off to church!
we leave dressed as we feel like, we grab our overdue bills!
and we are off, upon arriveing we enter the all you can eat buffet we pig out for an hour or so the waiteress comes to collect our dirty dishes, and our overdue bills in a few minutes she returns with the receipt, and a doggie bag full of cash.
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its sunday, oh joy we are off to church! we leave dressed as we feel like, we grab our overdue bills! and we are off, upon arriveing we enter the all you can eat buffet we pig out for an hour or so the waiteress comes to collect our dirty dishes, and our overdue bills in a few minutes she returns with the receipt, and a doggie bag full of cash. we than go to church itself after we sing our praises about our wonderfull god who pays our bills and gives us cash, the pastor comes out he hands out free health provider vouchers just incase some one dosent feel good , then they pass the plate on it are the new feel good wafers[harmless of course] even the kids can eat them! then the preacher takes the stage and talks breifly about the wonderous paradise we live in! and reminds us of the day when we woke up went out side and discovered while we slept god had brought the new world to us. soon the church service is over and we go to get in our cars we find them polished and full of gas! and we go home to watch our new explore the universe boxes[kinda like a tv] but if you want to go their you just touch the screen!
perfectly safe you come back automatically in a little while. yes wonderfull church! no one even thinks about the devil or the day god took him and all jehovahs wittnesses to a world just for them jehovah turned the devil and the demons into talkative householders each day the wittnesses come with new promises about paradise and studies the old bible. -
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Top 10 reasons why JWs don't have the truth - please contribute
by oldlightnewshite ini thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.
maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.
if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.
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failure to use their 6 million votes to take full control of whats on the ballot!
failure to buy fire arms and help police this country run the fricking wicked back to their closets!
yup people theirs lots of things you can say bad about the jehovah wittnesses doing this or that.but if jehovah came right now and said all right wittnesses its clobering time take your stand in the fight, trust me when i say geting the door slamed in you face makes someone remember were you live and you better pray to the dark ugly lord real hard jehovah never says it clobering time! remember how isreal defeated hugh armys? but relax jehovah wittness arent really gods chosen people right? so your not in any trouble. -
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so were do I go now that ive left the kingdom hall?
by arimatthewdavies inmany people for one reason or other have quit going to the kingdom hall me included!
i dont object to the people for they are clean well dressed human beings, i object to the way a prefabricated doctorine is distributed, useing hugh amounts of books magazines and media to attempt to study the bible,i feel obligated to say i agree with that method and under pressure to promote it, theirfore i stoped going because pretending to agree with this method and rendering lip service to it in order to keep from being disfellowshiped is a lie,and liers go to the lake of fire, .
so now that we have left the hall were do we go?
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the whole idea im trying to show seems to have been missised! Visit new churches make new freinds, do not find one and park yourself their continue ascociating with new people makeing new freinds just like jesus and the apostles did. dont follow totaly foolish advice of abandoneing any religeion and amuseing yourself with whatever the darkside offers! the darkside has anything you want! sex,dope money music,fast cars, sports,yes i said sports how godly is it to fight over a pigs bladder for$ or watch 2 people pretend to fight for$ and their you are sitting in front of a low leval xray machine slowly bakeing every cell in your body! yes if you are going to say the heck with god and set their with a joint rolled up. do me a favor shoot a gram or two of heroine into your arm while your at it! its not my job to pay your welfare, and jail, and probation, fees so you can laugh at sin! the bible says fools joke about sin! well anyway do good stuff not dumb stuff! with your time
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so were do I go now that ive left the kingdom hall?
by arimatthewdavies inmany people for one reason or other have quit going to the kingdom hall me included!
i dont object to the people for they are clean well dressed human beings, i object to the way a prefabricated doctorine is distributed, useing hugh amounts of books magazines and media to attempt to study the bible,i feel obligated to say i agree with that method and under pressure to promote it, theirfore i stoped going because pretending to agree with this method and rendering lip service to it in order to keep from being disfellowshiped is a lie,and liers go to the lake of fire, .
so now that we have left the hall were do we go?
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many people for one reason or other have quit going to the kingdom hall me included! i dont object to the people for they are clean well dressed human beings, i object to the way a prefabricated doctorine is distributed, useing hugh amounts of books magazines and media to attempt to study the bible,i feel obligated to say i agree with that method and under pressure to promote it, theirfore i stoped going because pretending to agree with this method and rendering lip service to it in order to keep from being disfellowshiped is a lie,and liers go to the lake of fire,
so now that we have left the hall were do we go? thats simple visit bible beleiving churchs speak about jesus and jehovah, to whomever gods holy spirit shall lead you...in a short time you will make freind with like minded christians,and you can go about doing what jesus and the apostles did! visiting churchs and established worship places! heaven forbid that people in the kingdom hall should hear of your conduct you will surely be branded apostate!
BUT THIS IS WHAT JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES DID! so do so yourself...
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Is God a Real Person?
by cameo-d inexcerpts from october awake:.
"awed by nature, many people are compelled to believe in a supernatural force, a deity.".
it is implied that it is nature that compels us, but is this really so?.
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god is a spirit creature, the watchtower as well as every other church ive ever been to often resorts to picture imagery of certain bible scriptures....
jehovah god himself said his name in the bible and he wanted it used[read the moses story] but god dosent want men to imagine himself,because jehovah made for us an image of himself to represent himself in a mans body read heb chap 1 we have lost any records over the years of how jesus looked and a book is a poor substitute for a liveing person, still we can read the bibles stories and print pictures on paper of what is written, their is no danger their because we are not comiting an idolatry but simply printing on paper what the prophet,or apostle said he saw in his vision.. and no its not dangerous to think of jehovah as a real person, if it was he himself would not have sent a real person to portray himself! hebrews chapt 1 -
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Pissing On JWs That Are Geuninely Searching Here
by minimus ini just want to say something about witnesses who come here just to try to rebel rouse as opposed to jws that come here and are "searching" or are "active" members in the organization but are reading info on this site.. there's no reason to "beat down" witnesses just because they still go to meetings and we don't.
i've seen some insulting words against present elders and it's unnecessary and judgmental, in my honest opinion.
some jws like to spar with us on this board and it's a losing effort for them in reality.. who knows when or what will make someone actually leave the tentacles of the organization.
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this is the united states of america jehovahs wittnessess should be given no less respect than the muslims[whos butts are getting kissed alot these days]
we all should get along with other parts of the body of christ it dosent do any good at all for the mouth to cuss out the foot that steped on a nail! the fastest way to loose your usefull ness to the lord jesus is to single out any particular religeion and jeer and poke. the name of your website gets out and you now have 6 million angry people preaching about your website they use terms like apostate and hostiles. to discribe your site and the internet forms an opinion[site dedicated to haseing jehovah wittnesses] then all you are is a hate club, -
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were are we really going when we die!
by arimatthewdavies ini tried this one before but my browser was broken.
come let us go up into heaven let us build our thrones their let us become like the most high!
these are satans words they got him and his demons kicked out off heaven!
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I tried this one before but my browser was broken. first let me tell you were we are not going.
come let us go up into heaven let us build our thrones their let us become like the most high! THESE ARE SATANS WORDs THEY GOT HIM AND HIS DEMONS KICKED OUT OFF HEAVEN! satan proceeded to cleaverly change language over the years to make the bible sound like its inviteing men to go to heaven...NOT!
HELL {SHEOL} MANS GRAVE no thoughts feelings pain or joy ever! period total unconscious sleeplike. no fire in hell hell is derived from the word sheol and i have listed its bible meaning, sheol[hell] never to be confused with ghena[second death] and here is the good news if you love jehovah and obey jesus as your lord you never need to worry about going their! the bad news is if you go their to the place god prepared for the devil and his demons you will get the same punishment they get.and since god made it clear that its diferant from sheol[hell] and the devils their,DO YOU WANT TO BE THEIR?
HELL NO! i wont attempt to say what goes on their. but it cant be unconscious and sleeplike because the bible says so!
so were do we go? with out cow pattie we die we lie in a grave and smell bad. just like any dead creature.... without any thoughts. until jehovah god makes you alive or self aware. thats it no silly story. plain simple truth no need to fear, your every detail is safe in gods mind, hey you go to a surgeon who puts you to sleep. you trust him to do it. well jehovah is far safer then any man and you will have the kind asurance from his holy spirit when you die that its just a little nap[while he lays out your new clothes!] what a joy to know you will wake up 10 times stronger, and healthier after your nap and you will never need to worry or fear again ever, gone from your mind will be the threats of disease or ageing! when it happens. until then sweet dream child of god! -
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144,000 pagans or annointed
by JCISGOD98 incharles russell the first president of the watchtower believed and taught that the anointed ones, which are the 144,000 who go heaven, began to be chosen just as soon as the church began, and by the end of the first century most of them were chosen.
the watchtower of february 1, 1975, page 84 reiterated that jehovah god started selecting the 144,000 nineteen hundred years ago.
history tells us that this persecuted church continued for several centuries, so there were many years during which the true church existed and expanded.
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my name is ari matthew davies baptised as a j.w. anointed as part of the 140000, and as one of them i would like to clarify who and what we are to the public. we are waiters, and waitresses we will be bringing to you whatever jesus christ himself sends! we are not a bunch of pettie governers to lord it over you our fellow man/women, and read your bible revelation specificly tells us this hugh city[called new jeruselum] is comeing down with god who will live with us forever, when the bible talks about us riseing to meet christ in the air. the word pneuma is the original word. that word means literal breath wind. its
physical we will have new healthy bodies that can work with jesus and men but acording to the bible we will be in the real air of planet earth not off in some heaven somewere, and neither will men we were made to enjoy earth and latter other worlds when we have mastered careing for this one. some how some total satan worshiping jack ass has got us beleiving that jehovah has changed his mind about planet earth being our home, and has people convinced that when we die we go up to heaven...THE VERY LIE SATAN STARTED come let us go up into heaven let us make our thrones their with god and become like the most high!Yes thats what the bible says satan did... So why in the holy hades are men/women still wanting to do it! its not jehovahs plan, it never was, its not going to be, finaly if you have someone who says they are going to heaven for gods glory correct them!
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why bother to pray?
by arimatthewdavies inalmost everyone has seen someone pray over the food at the dinner table,you know bless this food to our bodies and our bodies to your service, but tell the truth when was the last time god answered you?
ah like never?
so still we go on with the ritual of praying because some how its what god expects right?
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yes absouloutly right! peter walked on water all by himself we know this because gods power dosent fail. their is no knowing what power inside yourself you may tap by praying,, kundalini yoga taps an unknown force from within many consider dangerous! the devil and god are related by familey and both use the same powers... we are created in gods image, so say theirs no god at all, you never know what you can fool your mind into doing, sleepwalking people have been rumored to have walked out open windows in tall buildings then walked back in without plumeting to their deaths. i have personally wittnessed busey worker phenonomenon were a busey construction worker walks across a hole that was covered by planks but he dosent notice the planks were removed i have seen men walk back and forth over the open hole because they are used to that hole being covered by planks and think its still covered. the legendary story of the monkey king was a monkey raised with birds one day he levitated and people worshiped the monkey and made him king.