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  What's the org like now?

  by Leathercrop in

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  even tho i've been expelled about 4 years now, i truly checked out around 2015. changes in the org i think we're just starting to get going.

  i remember the kingdom songs suddenly getting the taylor swift treatment aka pop music treatment.

  meetings were getting axed or meshed together or something.

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  MeanMrMustard

  "I remember the kingdom songs suddenly getting the Taylor swift treatment.."

  Pppfttt. LOL. Based.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  MeanMrMustard

  Largely in part because,, a sucker is born every minute.

  They rely on their birthrate to keep it going.
  

  This religion will be around long after we all assume room temperature. But it's going to shrink to an insignificant size. It will eventually assume the rightful size of what we would consider a "fringe group". Just like all the other Bible Student shoot-offs that are still around, but unimportant, their membership will get to about 50k, maybe even less because of their added lunacy.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  MeanMrMustard

  I don’t think so.

  Ummkay

  At no point in WT eschatology is God’s Organization done away with.

  The corporation of the WTB&TS is not the "Organization". The WT corporation could get nuked, and it wouldn't get rid of JWs, not even legally. Our hypothetical comatose JW would awken to see the WT attacked, the corporation dissolved, but the "brotherhood" still intact, even legally as another one of their corporations. He would still be going to meetings, perhaps in homes - exactly as they said it would happen.

  This is why legal measures attempting to dissolve, or eliminate, the organization are futile. Sure, make them pay for CSA scandals. But never attempt to ban, dissolve, or outlaw them. It's only going to prolong the Organization's ultimate lifetime. The real "Organization" is the membership, and as plain, old, uneventful time rolls on and on, grinding away into menatenous illogical contradictions, it will shrink in membership, and then the religion will fade into obscurity.
  
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  MeanMrMustard

  It would be pretty hard to argue that it's God's earthly zorganisation if it was suddenly not there anymore.

  You sure about that? JWs believe that governments will turn on them near the end. And it's the 'last days of the last days' now.

  Take an average JW, bonk him over the head, put him in a coma. If he woke up one year later and found the WTB&TS had been dissolved, that would pretty much line up with what he'd expect. True, it's a bit out of order - other religions wouldn't be dissolved. But soon he would find the new corp, adopt the new name, accept the new light that they had the order a bit off ("oops we assumed it would happen like this and got a small detail incorrect, but look at the big picture!"), and soon he would be JW-ing as hard as ever, probably more so.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  MeanMrMustard

  "Sunset" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans

  Mental Health, alas!
  Gone, like a fart in the wind.
  Be with me, Thailand.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  MeanMrMustard

  They've structured it so that they can bail on the WTBTS. You can kill the corporation, it would just reincarnate as something else, everyone would rally around the flag because of Satan's persecution, and it would come out the other end stronger... just not officially WTBTS.

  The only way to kill the beast is to starve it. That happens slowly.
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  The ''dreaded'' birthday cake

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 39. let mildness be your strength.

  11 if a workmate asks, for example, why we do not celebrate birthdays, consider: could he be wondering whether we are allowed to have a good time?

  or might he feel that our position will dampen the company’s team spirit?

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  MeanMrMustard

  Internal logical consistency is a huge issue with JWs. If logical consistency is important to you, it's hard to stay JW.
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  Manners and Respectfulness

  by IWant2Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

  but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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  MeanMrMustard

  I've had no issues changing mine...
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  Manners and Respectfulness

  by IWant2Know in

  1. watchtower
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  i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

  but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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  MeanMrMustard

  So, are you implying that some ex's or former JWs are still working through their anger?

  I'm saying it's not a problem with the manners of exJWs if/when they have an issue with active JWs. The rest of my posts were just sarcastic fun.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  MeanMrMustard

  "Bit his hand off" == bro fan with some cash wanted to take a trip to Thailand as well, but didn't know where all the "best" spots are located. So he's bringing Lloyd along for a guide. And Lloyd benefits by "recharging his creative batteries".. i.e. double teaming the "definitely older than 20" girls.