Posts by MeanMrMustard

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The Meaning of ETC
by titch in
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folks: i don't mean to be a "forum grammar policeman", but there is something that i've noticed a few times.

i've noticed that a few---not all---but some, members of the forum who use the abbreviation "ect" when they want to use the abbreviation of "etc.

" for your education today, the term "etc" is the abbreviation for the latin term "et cetera.
MeanMrMustard
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
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to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
MeanMrMustard

So are you saying that God is like an author who already knows what happens to each character of the story?
More than that. I'm saying God knows everything that is and everything that could have been. Not just character archs in a story, but every piece of possible information, completely. He literally knows the ending from the beginning.
If yes, where does the concept of free will come in?
Knowledge of your choice, before you make the choice, doesn't mean you didn't have a choice.
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General Amnesty For Disfellowshipped
by NotFormer in
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future gb: "please come back!

all is forgiven!".

would it work?
MeanMrMustard

Imagine the sheer hubris of the GB thinking it's us that's needs the forgiveness.
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
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2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
MeanMrMustard

A god making a world without confidence it was safe makes that god equally responsible.
I think traditionally this is answered by saying that 1) God knows all things, including all "middle knowledge" - or all the permutations of all possible universes. And 2) the set of universes with free will and no sin is the empty set. Further, 3) this universe, with all its suffering, is the best feasible creation with free will. All the rest, in some way shape turn out more evil.
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
1. watchtower
2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
MeanMrMustard

I think its more about the ability to know. Like having the key to someone's hotel room, but choosing not to use it to see whats happening inside the room.
I'm not sure that's a good analogy. Putting aside that God created the hotel, all the rooms, and the content of each room, if He found Himself on the outside of this "room", how does He know its the right room to look into, or even pass by? Who or what is labeling the rooms for God?
Its more or less concluded from Paul's passages in Romans Chapter 5, where he states how sin entered the world through Adam's disobedience and death through it, and how Jesus' act of justification can mean everlasting life for all. This alludes to the point that there was a time when there was no sin, (means perfection - relative, not absolute) and hence no death.
Whatever state that was, why is it "perfect" and not just "very good"?
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
1. watchtower
2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
MeanMrMustard

@Vanderhoven7: Yep. I rekon that's what it says. The idea that Adam and Eve were "perfect" (whatever that means - highly subjective) is a JW doctrine pulled from the ass of the early leaders. And barely anyone questions it.
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
1. watchtower
2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
MeanMrMustard

Where does the Bible say Adam and Eve were created perfect?
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
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2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
MeanMrMustard

God chose not to know.
How can God choose what not to know without first knowing it in order to make the choice?
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God cannot lie
by psyco in
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the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
MeanMrMustard

Assume God can indeed lie. Then the statement that God cannot lie, is, in fact, a lie. In other words, that's exactly what a lying God would say.
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Why are the 2 newly appointed Governing Body Members from Bethel, when there are anointed ones all over the world? they could have used.
by RULES & REGULATIONS in
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library.

books & brochures.

enjoy life forever!—an interactive bible course.
MeanMrMustard

@NorFormer: Or he and his wife were swinging with another couple at Bethel. No way to know.