the fuck???
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the fuck???
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to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
God, being the Creator, indeed knew it was possible that man would sin, but whether he would or would not was not predestined; it was a choice.
God knew it would occur. It was still a choice.
I have four kids.
Of course I'm not kidding.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
"Where I go" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
Journey of my life.
Paths splinter by my choices.
Converge in Thailand.
luke 22:14 so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.
and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”.
19 also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body, which is to be given in your behalf.
Yeah. Tax deadline is coming. I think I'm ready technically. Never emotionally.
with what is arguably the biggest change to jw life in recent decades (the scrapping of publishers counting hours) what does this lead to?.
in my mind these are the results;.
1) a massive decrease in 'preaching hours'.
It'll collapse the same way someone goes bankrupt - a little at first and then all at once.
i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .
is this regarding 1914?
or micheal the arch angel?.
It'll soon be the goto phrase for everything.
That which cannot be sustained, won't.
throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.
the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.
this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.
The fact of the matter is that not one of these lines of evidence is based on the Bible..
Right, right. The old fall-back. Which is why I've gotten right to the Biblican topics with you in the past. The Bible does not require the 70 years to desolation. In fact, you can't get to 70 years of desolation without disregarding grammar while reading the scriptures in question.
throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.
the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.
this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.
In a recently published work and previous editions by Carl Olaf Jonsson who made it his life's work to refute 607 BCE and 1914 CE, attempts to refute such claims using seventeen lines of evidence. However, if 607 BCE is demonstrably wrong then only ONE line of evidence is needed. So, my challenge to all critics of the date 607 BCE is to provide one single line of evidence that disproves 607 BCE?
LOL. That's a new one. 17 lines of evidence is too many. You can't show 607 to be incorrect with 17 different lines of evidence.. noooo, it should just be one. COJ was *too* convincing,