during casual conversation at a social gethering, an elder mentioned to me that no one on earth could ever name their child jehovah because the holy spirit would prevent that from happening... i asked him what biblical proof he had to make such a statement... he got upset and replied: "you think i'm making this up?... try to find someone on the internet named jehovah"... at that point i just walked away and left him ranting... the alcohol on his breath was just too much for me to handle...
Posts by Alfred
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30Would you name your dog, Jehovah?
by african GB Member in...or are you still terrified by the mere mention of that name?.
perhaps still doubting whether he exists or not?.
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What defines a "pedophile" in the organization
by N.drew inaccused?
found quilty?
(and by whom), suspected?
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Alfred
Thanks Blondie for another great find...
I think Nancy Drew is realing asking who is considered a pedophile in the WT (not necessarily what constitutes grounds for disfellowshipping)... I believe there could be a difference... for example, the two guys you mention are allegedly repentant pedophiles (versus disfellowshipped pedophiles)... the only difference is the disfellowshipped pedophiles didn't shed tears during their JC while the repentant pedophiles DID shed tears during their JC... but for the WT's legal purposes, I believe they're both still considered pedophiles (repentant or not)... just saying
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What defines a "pedophile" in the organization
by N.drew inaccused?
found quilty?
(and by whom), suspected?
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Alfred
A JW is never considered a pedophile unless there are two witnesses that personally witnessed the JW commiting pedophilia OR the authorities find this JW guilty in a court of law...
otherwise, he's free to come and go as he pleases and even have privileges (including being an elder)... oh, and they might mention something to him about staying away from children in the congo and forget about it 5 minutes later....
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Victoria, Australia: Here is what JWs didn't do--fill out the "Working With Children" Application Form
by AndersonsInfo inhere is a link to a .pdf version of the working with children (wwc) application form that steven unthank has put on his website.
very important reading material to understand the wwc act and to see the questions asked to those who wanted to comply (or not to comply) with the act.
the download link is: http://workingwithchildrencheck.wordpress.com/.
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Alfred
Thanks Barbara... much appreciated...
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What would the WT do if anti shunning laws were passed?
by Aussie Oz inwhat would the wt do if say, a country or countries enacted a law that made shunnung illegal?.
punishable by time in prison or heavy fines?.
would they have the gall to 'obey god as ruler' rather than man, and actually continue the practice in defiance of the law even though they would incur the wrath of governments?
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Alfred
they would know about this "new anti-shunning legislation" at least a year before it is passed into law (since the watchtower lawyers have "friends" in high places who would tip them off way ahead of everyone else)... then they would simply have a special talk at the next assembly or convention (again, way before the new legislation is even known by the general public) and then announce that there is "new light" regarding the treatment of disfellowshipped or dissasociated ones... this "new light" will basically change the current policy to one of a personal conscience matter... "you know what the bible says, we're not going to take any action if you have association with disfellowshipped ones, but..."
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Barbara Anderson on conference call right now!
by koolaid-man insat oct.1-2011 8pm edt.
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dial 712-432-8710 when asked for pin use 9925. .
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Alfred
did you beg her to dial in so you could get some of your lost credibility back?
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Climate change and the WBTS.
by african GB Member inat this year's dc we heard the org's analysis on climate change and the deteriorating ozone layer.
we were told that jehovah will destroy those who destroy the earth, including those who chop down trees that are supposed to give oxygen in exchange for our carbon dioxide.. surely such a big corporation should have done a thourough research and found that they are also culprits.
they print millions, if not billions, of literature each year.
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Alfred
... not to mention all the carbon dioxide they generate at district convention and circuit assembly parking lots...
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2011 November Our Kingdom Ministry-PDF!
by Atlantis in.
credit goes to anonymous2011 november our kingdom ministry (and more).http://www.megaupload.com/?d=eq03rgzoatlantis
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Alfred
"the refund function has been disabled"...
nice one... looks like they're expecting a certain percentage of jw's to screw up and hit the "0" button too many times...
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Do you think Witnesses would drink the "Cool-Aid" if told to do so...like Jonestown?
by Witness 007 injonestown 1970's, jim jones brainwashed his 900 member cult into committing mass suicide by drinking cyanide cool-aid.
only three escaped.
{the smart ones} one man hid under a building....another escaped into the jungle while armed guards dragged another member to get injected by force.
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Alfred
i'd say about 60? percent would drink without questioning... 30 perecent would eventually drink out of peer pressure... 10 percent would run for the exit...
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VAT 4956 - Comparison Of The Lunar Three Time Intervals For Years 568/7 BCE and 588/7 BCE
by AnnOMaly invat 4956 - comparison of the lunar three time intervals for years 568/7 b.c.e.
the online sky view cafe (svc) and the cartes du ciel* (cdc) astronomy programs have been used for these results.. observer's location: babylon, 32 33' n / 44 24' e.. sr = sunrise; ss = sunset; mr = moonrise; ms = moonset.. .
svc's range of difference between its results and that of the text, when a time interval could be taken, is 1.75 to 6.5. average difference 3.5.. cdc's range of difference between its results and that of the text, when a time interval could be taken, is 0.75 to 8.5. average difference 4. .
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Alfred
Alleymom... you have a PM