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Posts by Alfred
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The latest change in Watchtower vocabulary to catch out the unwary
by slimboyfat ini got a copy of the recent kingdom ministry the other day and it reminded me of something in the book the orwellian world of jehovha's witnesses by heather and garry botting.
it's on the front page of the december issue of the km, they have a heading called "not 'alternative' witnessing" where they explain that the term is no longer considered appropriate and "public" witnessing should be used instead.. in the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses the bottings discuss the importance of the particular language jws use to set themselves apart from other people.
they redefine common words to give them a particular slant, such as "brother", "sister", "literature" and so on.
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Alfred
This is yet furtherconfirmation that Jehovah is lovingly enlightening his only channel of communication with progressive refinements. Recently, His holy spirit caused David Splane to toss and turn in bed for over a week until he decided to hold an emergency session to inform the other 6 members of the GB that Jehovah no longer approves the word "alternative" and that they must select a more appropriate word to keep in step with Jehovah's Theocratic organization.
Within a week, they were able to have meaningful and prayerful discussion about this topic until Anthony Morris eventually suggested the word "public". It went up for a vote but it didn't quite reach the required 2/3 majority because Sam Herd wanted to use "Spontaneous Witnessing" instead (and 2 other GB members agreed with him). But because David Splane was the one who Jehovah approached first, they decided to have one final prayerful discussion and the resolution was passed with an unanimous vote.
How blessed is God's people to have received this much needed spiritual food at the appropriate time.
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FOUR DAYS LEFT to have your say in the 2011 survey!!
by cedars insorry to be an absolute pain with this, but i'm sure you realise that there are many lurkers on this forum who will be unaware of the global survey, which slams shut at midnight on new year's eve.. so, if you're visiting this forum for the first time, and haven't yet voiced your opinion on the jw global survey, please click here!.
some stats for those who are interested:.
so far over 1,038 have participated.. 49% of voters are either active or inactive jehovah's witnesses.. the most contentious teaching of the governing body remains their reasoning surrounding higher education, with 95% objecting to this.. the society's shunning policy still holds second place with 91% of votes.. .
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Alfred
Cedars... where will the results of this survey be posted (besides this board)...
i assume you've considered "The Pew Forum"? but maybe the associated press would be interested as well... just saying
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My Story
by TheWanderer ini found this site quite a few months ago, after a curiosity search on wikipedia about jws and what's going on with the organization.
i was unfortunately born into it, 4th-generation; my great-grandfather was a special pioneer spreading the word in the early 1900s.
it was all i knew growing up, even though i struggled between trying to conform to make everyone happy ... and finding my own way in life.
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Alfred
Wanderer... thanks for sharing...
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Those who study the bible, being told to 'wait' for the WT to get to things.....
by EndofMysteries inonce thing i've noticed and from my relatives, is they may acknowledge that things are not understood or maybe incorrect in their understanding from the wt magazines, but they say not to rush ahead, it will eventually be sorted out.
without even trying to argue about that, just think for the past 5, 10, 20 years, what 'new understanding' and changes in the deep things have come?
if that was true, then at meetings would consistently be learning new material, new insight and understanding.
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Alfred
They generally make changes when the letters in the Service Department (calling them out on their BS) start to pile up. It happened in 2007 with the 1935 heavenly gate closure doctrine... the letters were overwhelming... i.e.: "Dear Governing Body, there's only 2 of you remaining who were born before 1935, what gives?"...
I can just picture David Splane turning to Anthony Morris and saying: "Let's just quietly put something in a QFR saying that there's really no way of knowing when the heavenly calling ceased... we'll just say that it's Nu-Lite, the friends will get all giddy and it will soon be forgotten"
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Merry Christmas Everyone!!!
by Philadelphia Ponos inand a happy holidays to all my jewish, muslim, atheist, agnostic, buddhist, hindu, and sikh friends!
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Alfred
Merry Christmans Philly Pono...
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JW nephew graduation party cancelled... your insight is requested
by Alfred ini have a jw nephew in another state who was at very the top of his high school senior class this year.
because of this, my sister (an elder's wife) had planned and sent out invitations to his "graduation party" which would be held at a community center with all the bells and whistles.
i actually bought plane tickets for my wife and i to attend this party immediately after receiving the invitation in the mail.
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Alfred
Black Sheep... you're right... he's not fully aware of everything so he left for the wrong reasons... This is why I will give him some time to clear his head and then I will start talking to him about 1914, the FDS, the flip-flops, everything... in due time...
thanks!
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Breaking News from Steve Unthank - Police Launch Investigation into Traralgon Congregation
by Broken Promises inaustralia, breaking news: police launch investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children with the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
jw news can report that victoria police have launched an investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children within the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses over the past two years.
according to initial reports,... the body of elders were strictly ordered by the watchtower bible and tract society of australia to cover-up the multiple rapes of a number of children within the traralgon congregation allegedly committed by a fellow member of the jehovah's witness religion.
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Alfred
Falcon... When it comes to pedophiles who constantly get their own way with innocent children and are well-protected by a multi-billion dollar publishing cult, I am a self-confessed hate monger... why should I be anything different?
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JWs react with joy when something bad has happen to inactive or DF'd ones
by Anator ini've noticed when i was an active dub that some jws act joyful whenever they hear that an inactive jw or a df'd person had something bad happen to them.
some have a glee-ful smile and they give that *look* that says, "we told you so".
have you ever experienced what i'm referring to?
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Alfred
Once I was putting in the CD for the last song after the service meeting, when they announced that "Brother Who-left-2-years-ago is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses".... as this announcement was made, one of the microphone holders handed over his mic to me (so I can put it away) and said: "I hope the devil has his way with him" (in Spanish)... that threw me off so much that I completely forgot the song number and had to fumble through my KM to find it while everyone looked back at me wondering why I haven't played the song yet... I went from extreme shock to embarassment in just a few seconds...
This religion really does instill hate... most JWs just don't realize it...
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JW nephew graduation party cancelled... your insight is requested
by Alfred ini have a jw nephew in another state who was at very the top of his high school senior class this year.
because of this, my sister (an elder's wife) had planned and sent out invitations to his "graduation party" which would be held at a community center with all the bells and whistles.
i actually bought plane tickets for my wife and i to attend this party immediately after receiving the invitation in the mail.
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Unbelievable update... I don't even know where to be begin, so I'll just cut to the chase...
My nephew has left his home last night and has moved into an apartment!!! He has also decided to stop attendingmeetings for good!!! I got a text from my non-JW sister (his aunt that he confides in) so I immediately called him to offer my support... he said he was fine for now and that he just needed some time alone to clear his head. His main reason for leaving: "I just got tired of having to be spiritual all the time."
Before we ended the call he said that he believes this religion is for people who have problems in their lives and need some kind of support system. Other than that, he really has no use for it since there are way too many rules and things you can't do. This kid is smart.
I guess I really shouldn't be surprized about any of this considering what he went through recently, yet I'm still trying to understand how an extremely spiritual, hard-core JW kid (son of a well-respected elder) would leave the borg cold-turkey the way he did... if anything, they usually just fade... but he went out in style IMO.
Anyway, I thought I'd share... can't wait to talk to my nephew some more (when he's done clearing his head)...
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions!
Alfred