Designs...
you are correct... there are areas in the US and some developed countries where they simply can't get away with cutting corners... but when they see an opportunity to do so, they will (and they have)
Posts by Alfred
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4Aside from WTs NY Dumpsite, what about KH remodels???
by Alfred inthe illegal dump site in upstate ny has received quite a lot of attention lately (as well it should)... .
however, having been involved in several kh remodels, i think the wts little regard for the environment extends way beyond this dumpsite.
as some of you probably know, the workday at a kh remodel usually starts with a prayer, breakfast and a 5 minute safety talk... the safety talk was a joke (e.g.
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Putting together a brochure that debunks the "Memorial"...
by Alfred inwith "memorial season" just around the corner, i am planning to put together a small brochure (or maybe just a plain-looking document on letter-sized paper) that exposes the embarassing fact that jws still hold their "memorial" every year even though, by their own teachings, they should have had their last one in 1914. i plan to give it to the next elder who stops by to "count his time" during memorial season.
but hopefully, this will happen before they start canvassing my neighborhood since i plan to distribute it to my neighbors as well.. i've just started this morning with the following "quick draft" (but i would appreciate your comments and insight... thanks):.
jehovah's witnesses, why are you still inviting people to "the memorial"?.
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Alfred
With "memorial season" just around the corner, I am planning to put together a small brochure (or maybe just a plain-looking document on letter-sized paper) that exposes the embarassing fact that JWs still hold their "Memorial" every year even though, by their own teachings, they should have had their last one in 1914. I plan to give it to the next elder who stops by to "count his time" during memorial season. But hopefully, this will happen before they start canvassing my neighborhood since I plan to distribute it to my neighbors as well.
I've just started this morning with the following "quick draft" (but I would appreciate your comments and insight... thanks):
Jehovah's Witnesses, why are you STILL inviting people to "The Memorial"?
For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives . -1 Corinthians 11:23-26
When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne . –Matthew 25:31
Another noteworthy evidence of Jesus’ having already arrived invisibly in glory is the separation of people into two distinct groups. –Awake! July 22, 1973 page 5
“The faithful and discreet slave” cannot be one person. Why not? Because the slave began serving spiritual food back in the first century, and according to Jesus, the slave would still be doing so when the Master arrived in 1914 . –Watchtower March 1, 2004 page 8
(Note: I want to keep this a short as possible since I want to be able to capture people's attention with brief "bullet" points having high impact)
thanks!
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Closing down of all non-native congregations in The Netherlands
by Gorbatchov inthis weekend serious sources told me that in the netherlands the society is closing down all non-native congregations.
because of the mixed population of this country, there are >100 non-native congregations like english, france, dutch-caribian, arab, chinese, italian, russian, spanish etc.. my source was backing the dissision of the society because "these non-native congregations are islands on their own, with group-thinking and not allways listening to the society..." and concluded "these non-natives has to learn dutch instead of we are learning their language".. strange: some years ago many jw's learned a foreign language (like arab or chinese!
) and now they are all closing down.
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Alfred
I can't imagine the WT getting any significant contribution money from these foreign language congos... especially if they're full of assylum-seekers... just saying
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Febuary 21 2012 We could make a difference,if we want to. A World Wide Campaign sending letters to Govt. officials,newspapers, to Victoria Australia
by smiddy inthis is a sugestion i have to all members of this board ,members from all over the world, to let the victorian government in australia know that the world is concerned about protecting the children of victoria ,and theirby setting a precedent for the rest of the world, who are interested in the outcome of the criminal charges against the religion of jehovah`s witnesses in refusing to abide by the legislation to get "working with children checks"when required to do so.correct me if i`m wrong but i think if all of us sent letters to the newspapers here in australia ,the different members of parliment here,we would demonstate that the victorian judicial system here is under scrutiny to do the right thing in the eyes of the world.. we all complain that the wtb&ts/jehovahs witnesses is a cult religion that sucks,destroying family relationships,here is a chance to do something about it.
whether you agree with steven unthank or not,here is an opportunity to stick up for the children of jehovah`s witnesses and every other child that a witness calls on in their door to door ministry.. what do you think ?.
smiddy.
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Alfred
What's their mailing address or email?
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Aside from WTs NY Dumpsite, what about KH remodels???
by Alfred inthe illegal dump site in upstate ny has received quite a lot of attention lately (as well it should)... .
however, having been involved in several kh remodels, i think the wts little regard for the environment extends way beyond this dumpsite.
as some of you probably know, the workday at a kh remodel usually starts with a prayer, breakfast and a 5 minute safety talk... the safety talk was a joke (e.g.
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Alfred
The illegal dump site in upstate NY has received quite a lot of attention lately (as well it should)…
However, having been involved in several KH remodels, I think the WT’s little regard for the environment extends way beyond this dumpsite.
As some of you probably know, the workday at a KH remodel usually starts with a prayer, breakfast and a 5 minute safety talk… the safety talk was a joke (e.g.: check your ladder, wear your hard hat, yawn, make sure you wear goggles, yawn, stay alert… we’re working for Jehovah… ok, get to work)…
But there was never any mention about EPA guidelines for the handling, storage or disposal of hazardous chemicals such as paint thinners, lacquers, gasoline for fuel-powered equipment, etc.. Whenever there was a chemical spill, it would be cleaned up with rags or large amounts of paper towels and then thrown in a trash bag (versus EPA-approved absorbent material and proper hazmat storage drums). Flammable chemicals would be stored underneath construction trailers (not approved storage cabinets) with temporary wiring hanging underneath. In fact, no one had a clue as to what the regulations were and they really didn’t care… After all, why should they? In their minds, they were working for Jehovah and only needed to answer to him.
Once I spoke out about this on the job site and was later pulled aside by an elder who said I should approach the elders privately since this could cause some brothers to stumble. He also said that this was all temporary anyway, that we were only 2 weeks away from completing the project and we should all just focus on the final stretch so that the brothers don’t have to keep driving to the next town for their meetings. I stupidly agreed and left it at that.
At some point, however, the EPA needs to step in and take a closer look at what the Watchtower is doing at these KH remodels, quick builds, etc... I think they’d find an overwhelming list of violations that would be too much for them to handle… just saying…
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Alfred
I didn't know we could sell stuff... I have some real estate fliers I'd like to post...
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The latest change in Watchtower vocabulary to catch out the unwary
by slimboyfat ini got a copy of the recent kingdom ministry the other day and it reminded me of something in the book the orwellian world of jehovha's witnesses by heather and garry botting.
it's on the front page of the december issue of the km, they have a heading called "not 'alternative' witnessing" where they explain that the term is no longer considered appropriate and "public" witnessing should be used instead.. in the orwellian world of jehovah's witnesses the bottings discuss the importance of the particular language jws use to set themselves apart from other people.
they redefine common words to give them a particular slant, such as "brother", "sister", "literature" and so on.
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Alfred
This is yet furtherconfirmation that Jehovah is lovingly enlightening his only channel of communication with progressive refinements. Recently, His holy spirit caused David Splane to toss and turn in bed for over a week until he decided to hold an emergency session to inform the other 6 members of the GB that Jehovah no longer approves the word "alternative" and that they must select a more appropriate word to keep in step with Jehovah's Theocratic organization.
Within a week, they were able to have meaningful and prayerful discussion about this topic until Anthony Morris eventually suggested the word "public". It went up for a vote but it didn't quite reach the required 2/3 majority because Sam Herd wanted to use "Spontaneous Witnessing" instead (and 2 other GB members agreed with him). But because David Splane was the one who Jehovah approached first, they decided to have one final prayerful discussion and the resolution was passed with an unanimous vote.
How blessed is God's people to have received this much needed spiritual food at the appropriate time.
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FOUR DAYS LEFT to have your say in the 2011 survey!!
by cedars insorry to be an absolute pain with this, but i'm sure you realise that there are many lurkers on this forum who will be unaware of the global survey, which slams shut at midnight on new year's eve.. so, if you're visiting this forum for the first time, and haven't yet voiced your opinion on the jw global survey, please click here!.
some stats for those who are interested:.
so far over 1,038 have participated.. 49% of voters are either active or inactive jehovah's witnesses.. the most contentious teaching of the governing body remains their reasoning surrounding higher education, with 95% objecting to this.. the society's shunning policy still holds second place with 91% of votes.. .
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Alfred
Cedars... where will the results of this survey be posted (besides this board)...
i assume you've considered "The Pew Forum"? but maybe the associated press would be interested as well... just saying
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My Story
by TheWanderer ini found this site quite a few months ago, after a curiosity search on wikipedia about jws and what's going on with the organization.
i was unfortunately born into it, 4th-generation; my great-grandfather was a special pioneer spreading the word in the early 1900s.
it was all i knew growing up, even though i struggled between trying to conform to make everyone happy ... and finding my own way in life.
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Alfred
Wanderer... thanks for sharing...
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Those who study the bible, being told to 'wait' for the WT to get to things.....
by EndofMysteries inonce thing i've noticed and from my relatives, is they may acknowledge that things are not understood or maybe incorrect in their understanding from the wt magazines, but they say not to rush ahead, it will eventually be sorted out.
without even trying to argue about that, just think for the past 5, 10, 20 years, what 'new understanding' and changes in the deep things have come?
if that was true, then at meetings would consistently be learning new material, new insight and understanding.
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Alfred
They generally make changes when the letters in the Service Department (calling them out on their BS) start to pile up. It happened in 2007 with the 1935 heavenly gate closure doctrine... the letters were overwhelming... i.e.: "Dear Governing Body, there's only 2 of you remaining who were born before 1935, what gives?"...
I can just picture David Splane turning to Anthony Morris and saying: "Let's just quietly put something in a QFR saying that there's really no way of knowing when the heavenly calling ceased... we'll just say that it's Nu-Lite, the friends will get all giddy and it will soon be forgotten"