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  Steven Unthank is a true HERO

  by Shawn10538 in

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  i just got done listening to hsi interview on six screens.

  if any of you have any doubt about his motives and the greatness of his heroic actions, listen to the entire interview.

  it is more than 3 hours long and i believe he addresses many concerns some here have had.

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  Alfred

  shutting down computer... PM me instead...
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  Steven Unthank is a true HERO

  by Shawn10538 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just got done listening to hsi interview on six screens.

  if any of you have any doubt about his motives and the greatness of his heroic actions, listen to the entire interview.

  it is more than 3 hours long and i believe he addresses many concerns some here have had.

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  Alfred

  Why is it absolutely necessary for some posters to immediately offer what they believe is a "balanced" point of view on every freakin thread about Steven?... if people want to hail him as a hero or even worship him, let them... that's their perogative.
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  Does anyone have the 2012 Memorial Talk outline?

  by Alfred in

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  2. bible

  just wanted to see if they included 1 cor 11:26... or if they elaborate on that text... thnx.

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  Alfred

  Ynot... Thanks for that 2006 outline... looks like they conveniently left out 1Cor 11:26 from that out line ....

  I just wonder if they plan to leave it out the 2012 outline as well...
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  Governing Body two-thirds majority

  by wannabefree in

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  i believe current count is 9 gb, so that makes 6 out of 9 for it to be so?.

  how about two-thirds when all 10,800 or so are given a say?.

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  Alfred

  I bet they got this 2/3 mayority vote method from the UN...

  Are changes in the U.N. the answer? Consider the one that was made during the Korean War in the early 1950’s. At that time a resolution was passed that made a two-thirds vote in the General Assembly enough to override a veto by one of the members of the influential Security Council. It was believed that this modification in procedure would curtail any attempt by a Security Council member to hinder the peacemaking efforts of the United Nations.

  Actually, this change was not drastic enough, as subsequent history has proved. In a crisis it was found that a two-thirds vote usually could not be mustered to overrule a veto. The influence of a larger nation in the Security Council Frederick Franz has a great effect on how members of the General Assembly Governing Body vote.

  -Awake! March 8, 1972 page 5
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  When does the Lord "arrive"?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (credit to therevealer for finding this and posting on another thread).

  from watchtower march 15, 2010 page 27 "one flock, one shepherd":.

  who should partake?.

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  When does the Lord "arrive"?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (credit to therevealer for finding this and posting on another thread).

  from watchtower march 15, 2010 page 27 "one flock, one shepherd":.

  who should partake?.

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  Alfred

  Same ole crap... that it most certainly is...

  These are one of those bizarre teachings where you can easily get three different responses (to the same question) from three different elders (one of them being, did you look it up in the CD Rom?)
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  When does the Lord "arrive"?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  (credit to therevealer for finding this and posting on another thread).

  from watchtower march 15, 2010 page 27 "one flock, one shepherd":.

  who should partake?.

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  Alfred

  (credit to therevealer for finding this and posting on another thread)

  From Watchtower March 15, 2010 page 27 "One Flock, One Shepherd":

  Who Should Partake?

  15 Those in the new covenant "have boldness for the way of entry into the holy place." (Read Hebrews 10:15-20.) These are the ones who are "to receive a kingdom that cannot be shaken." (Heb. 12:28) So, then, only those who will be kings and priests in heaven with Jesus Christ should drink from the "cup" that represents the new covenant. These participants in the new covenant are the ones promised in marriage to the Lamb. (2 Cor. 11:2; Rev. 21:2, 9) All others who attend the annual Memorial are respectful observers, who do not partake of the emblems.

  16 Paul also helps us to understand that those with an earthly hope do not partake of the Memorial emblems. He said to anointed Christians: "For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives." (1 Cor. 11:26) When does the Lord ‘arrive'? When he comes to take the last of his anointed bride class to their heavenly home. (John 14:2, 3) Clearly, the annual observance of the Lord's Evening Meal is not to continue endlessly. "The remaining ones" of the woman's seed yet on earth will continue to partake of this meal until all of them have received their heavenly reward. (Rev. 12:17) If, though, those who will live forever on earth were entitled to partake of the emblems, then this Memorial meal would need to continue forever.

  OK... let's back up here for a second... How does this work then (according to the WT)? What on earth does the WT writer mean when he says that Jesus "arrival" will occur "when he comes totakethe last of his annointed"??? Is Jesus coming down in one fell swoop to inflict fatal harm to the few remaining annointed so they can receive their heavenly reward and officially mark Jesus' arrival? The way this is written in paragraph 16, it is implied that this is a one-time event... not something that would happen continuously as more annointed pass away... So what the f**k is the Watchtower trying to say here???
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  Johannes Greber, the New Testament

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was hunting through some papers and found about 1000 photocopies of various things that are wt-related.

  thought i would share some of them.

  in 1980 the wts sent a thank you letter to the johannes greber memorial foundation.

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  Alfred

  Looks like this esoteric book store still carries Rutherford books...

  http://www.booksmart.co.uk/esoteric.htm
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  Does anyone have the 2012 Memorial Talk outline?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wanted to see if they included 1 cor 11:26... or if they elaborate on that text... thnx.

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  Alfred

  Evidently, they've employed some "safeguards" to keep this talk outline off the internet... seems to be the most difficult outline to get... anyone familiar with the chain of custody of this particular talk?
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  Militant apostate wants to become the Steven Unthank of America!

  by koolaid-man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  former jehovah's witness monique from calfifornia is destined to become the steven unthank of america.. reading about unthank online is what caused her to exit the organization, just two months ago.. monique applauds mr unthanks efforts in charging the the watchtower organization in not complying with police background checks in australia.

  the business monique is currently involved in required her in to get a background check.she has approached the state of california and is inquiring why the jehovah's do not have to comply with background checks,as other businesses and organizations do.monique is a militant apostate and she is attempting to organize a movement to get other former witnesses in their state to push for jw background checks.. monique will be our guest sat.

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  Alfred

  People don't get offended by your so-called "shock"... they get offended by your "lies"