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  I have the will - just wish I had the means and opportunity to be able to convert jws.

  by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, i think it would be fine for all jws to be converted.. .

  converted into pet food or garden compost.

  that way they could achieve something useful by their existence.. cheeses.

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  Alfred

  whatever you're smoking... don't share it with anyone just yet...
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  Inside Australia's chilling new cult, an xJW is the leader

  by finallysomepride in

  1. social
  2. current

  in a 10 month investigation, sunday night infiltrates one of the worlds most worrying new cults.

  but most chilling, this cult is australian, spreading and described as worse than waco.

  we go inside the cults headquarters to meet the leaders and their followers who claim their lives have been changed forever.. http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/10276027/inside-australias-chilling-new-cult/.

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  Alfred

  I'm sure the GB became giddy when they saw this report for the 1st time... I can just picture Tony Morris picking up the phone in his office and calling the writing dept with a stupid smile on his face... By February or March, the "study edition" WT will feature an article about what "apostates" engage in after leaving "jehovah's organization"... they'll definitely be using this aussie cult as an example...
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  Today's Watchtower Study is SO dumb!!!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to think of myself as an academic.

  im starting my second degree and i enjoy research.

  when i see a statement backed up by references and support from a credible source, sometimes i get excited.

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  Alfred

  greybeard and leonbus... name one thing the idiots in brooklyn got right... in the meantime, i suggest you research the wt's history more thoroughly before making any more ignorant comments on this board...
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  Credit Donation Machines in Assembly Halls

  by leonbus23 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just received an email from the ex-jw meetup group coordinator in phoenix.

  she stated that the jws are putting credit donation machines at the assembly halls.

  is this true?

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  Alfred

  Their justification will be that this is yet another loving provision from the Governing Body in their efforts to simplify things for Jehovah's people in this difficult time of the end. By lovingly providing these credit donation machines, the brothers in the accounts departments at these assemby halls can now have a lot more time to sit with their families and enjoy the program... They're so predictable...

  But what they're really doing here is targeting the JW population that tends to carry little or no cash (due to the abundance of ATMs around the nation)... It's no secret that a lot less people carry significant cash in their pockets than, say, 20 years ago... It just dawned on the WT that they need to tap into the funds of those who have gone cashless because of technology...
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  Society tells us to stop asking questions...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was just glancing at the back of the october 15th watchtower and the questions from readers.

  the question under discussion is "what should i do when i have a question about something i read in the bible or when i need advice about a personal problem?".

  the article goes on to discuss how we should consult the watch tower publications index among the many 'tools' that have been provided by the faithful and discreet slave whenever we have a question that is not directly discussed in the publications.. one statement really caught my eye, because it's the first time i've ever seen the society actually dissuade people from writing in with questions.

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  Alfred

  Knee-jerk reaction or not... the WT hates questions...

  One of the most most frequent questions they get in the mail is about their chronolgy as regards to the whole 607-1914 Adventist teaching they keep re-cycling...

  That's quite probably why this article was published around the same time as the two recent articles about Jerusalem's destruction. They were pretty much silent on this subject since 1988 (the year the Insight books were published). But the questions kept piling up. Eventually the GB had to get old Rolf Furuli to dazzle the rank-and-file with his BS so they can all shut the hell up (on the subject of chronology) and get back to work...
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  Getting rid of the Book Study - a way to isolate the JW?

  by skeeter1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the book study meeting was cancelled a while back.

  the watch tower said that it was to provide for a family study night and high gas costs.

  hmmm.. i thought about the cancellation of the book study meeting after listening to another pastor discus his mega-churchs dependence on small circle groups.

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  Alfred

  Skeeter... very interesting perspective...

  KH meetings are held in rows not in circles... you're so right.

  I also think they wanted to eliminate the opportunities for questions after the meeting... I know there were plenty of questions from me and others after the second round with the red Apocalypse book...

  The GB knows very well that opportunities for these questions are quite limited a KH environment... after the service meeting, for example, elders are too busy counting money, grading talks, and talking shop amongst themselves to be bothered with questions they can't even answer. So JWs who are on the fence tend to feel intimidated and prefer to simply head for the exit than to wait for an elder to break free (from his idle conversation with other elites or whatever they're doing for jehovah)... INFORMATION CONTROL... very well orchestrated by the WT...
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  Koolaid-man: Are you receiving compensation from the WTBTS?

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  rick: it's just a question... (if it's been asked before and you've already answered it, please disregard this post).

  the reason i ask this question is the following... if i were a member of the gb and i wanted to discredit the "apostate" community or make them appear to be "mentally deseased", i would start by approaching a well-known "apostate" like yourself and offer him significant compensation in exchange for his/her role in making unsubstantiated claims against the wt, posting pictures of 3-person demonstrations (calling them successful) and making up colorful characters like johnny the bethelite.

  i would also have him throw in the occasional false claim so that jws can easily say: "you see?

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  Alfred

  Rick: It's just a question... (if it's been asked before and you've already answered it, please disregard this post)

  The reason I ask this question is the following... If I were a member of the GB and I wanted to discredit the "apostate" community or make them appear to be "mentally deseased", I would start by approaching a well-known "apostate" like yourself and offer him significant compensation in exchange for his/her role in making unsubstantiated claims against the WT, posting pictures of 3-person demonstrations (calling them successful) and making up colorful characters like Johnny the Bethelite. I would also have him throw in the occasional false claim so that JWs can easily say: "You see? The GB is right. Apostates are evil liars who want to hurt God's people." Yeah, that's what I would do... and there would be plenty of money in it for any apostates willing to switch sides again.

  I'm not saying you are being paid by the WTBTS... I'm just asking a question...

  Looking forward to your response if you haven't already responded on a previous post.

  Thanks
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  Jehovah’s Witness denies sex charges

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jehovahs witness denies sex charges.

  tuesday, september 13, 2011. http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/jehovah_s_witness_denies_sex_charges_1_1020203.

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  Alfred

  Desirous... onvolving the police would bring reproach on jehovah's organization... can't have that... the parents might lose privileges and their status as exemplary JWs... this is clearly mor imoprtant than protecting their kids... heck, they'll get over it if they pary a lot and go to FS...
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  Watchtower Lobbyist

  by JHK in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  what is this?

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  thank you.. http://www.nyc.gov/lobbyistsearch/search;jsessionid=tvffrvp84jpxc85tqfqr5qfplcgnxltrb48svf08hflb8m4pc5pb!-594992774.

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  Alfred

  I think it might have to do with some shady business on 85 Jay Street...

  there are several articles dating back a few years on what the Watchtower may try do with this location (starting with greasing some palms of city planning commission officers)...
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  WTS Legal Dept: "Try to make your kids seem normal."

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just finished reading the segment on setting double standards from in search of christian freedom.

  franz gives as an example what is probably the most wanton display of in-your-face hypocrisy.. citing a brochure produced by the legal department designed to help witness parents in child custody battles:.

  this can be used to show that they are normal.

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  Alfred

  yeah... This is allowed under the Theocratic Warfare Act... make sure you beat up your kid in the Kingdom Hall's "back room" if you catch him doodling in their "My Book of Bible Stories" book during the meeting, then make him say he's allowed to play sports if they get questioned in a custody case... pretty standard stuff