I agree with Blondie,
Dignity... Welcome, obarac! I do not know the answer to your question but... You will get answer here quicker than asking an off-line elder.
badcompany
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2011 district convention
by obarac insomebody know the theme of this years district convention or is still top secret?.
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Dead Birds And Fish
by EmptyInside indoes anyone have any idea why birds are literally dropping dead from the sky in four or five states.
and even in sweden,hundreds of birds are dead.
and fish are turning up dead too,not only in the states,but also brazil and new zealand.. they're trying to say new year's eve fireworks frightened the birds to death.
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badcompany
Black Sheep,
I just pi$$ed myself!
All seriousness set aside, HAARP was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this stuff happening.
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The Doors - Your Favorite Songs By Them ? YOU-tubes Welcome !
by flipper in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv7hs7k7w8.
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badcompany
What blows me away is the difference in technology between then and now and the quality of music. Back in the sixties acts could flounder in obscurity for years with no commercial success (Bob Seger is a good example). You had to be picked up a major label (which robbed most of the greats blind). Today you can set up a studio in your house, market yourself, self-publish and sell your product for under a thousand. You would think the airwaves would be brimming with great songs. I've got XM and Sirius and spend most of the time listening to oldies. Back in the sixties I didn't listen to music from the twenties and neither did my parents or anyone else I knew. Just my 2 cents.
Long live, Morrison.
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The Doors - Your Favorite Songs By Them ? YOU-tubes Welcome !
by flipper in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv7hs7k7w8.
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badcompany
Soft Parade
YY2, I think you must have missed the sixties.
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Attention Lurkers- Consider the effectiveness of your lifesaving work
by stuckinamovement inhypothetical scenario.
you are a city manager in a major metropolitan city with a population of 3,000,000.. .
if the governing body was truly convinced themselves of the impending disaster and the fact that the end is imminent would they not focus their efforts in spreading the message through effective means such as telephone, television, internet, social networks etc?
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badcompany
Excellent, SIAM... This is one of the main reasons I left. Just do the math.
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"How Awful This Place Can Be!" Life at Bethel by Keith Casarona
by Dogpatch inremember the video of all the nice dudes who were on the governing body in the 70s?
(here's a refresher).. well this is what their lives were really like - the same as when i was there.
by the time it got to the end, all was left was chicken backs.
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badcompany
Thanks, Randy!
I fully intended to go to Bethel (life's dream). Went there for the tour in '74. I could sense some of the things you talk about even though the tour guides tried to make it look all shiny and bright. I remember the faces on the people strapped to some of the machines you mention. I could tell I would hate it (those poor bastards were trapped as far as I could tell). Being a small town boy I was very enamored with NYC itself. I quickly learned that Watchtower wages (what was it....$13/mo then?) wouldn't allow for much night life. I'm sure glad I went to kick the tires first. It's really close to being shanghaied if you just sign up without going to see the reality first.
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Why Christmas Is Important
by metatron inevery year, i take some time to express my admiration and respect for christmas.. yes, christmas, folks.. i don't give a rat's a$$ when jesus was or wasn't born.
i don't care how many gift giving orgies the romans had.
i don't care about "pagan" customs derived from religions that are long dead, anyway.
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badcompany
Right on! and Merry Christmas to all. Good night...
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DEMONS
by Band on the Run ingrowing up in the fifties and sixties, stories of demonic possession were prevalant in the watchtower and awake.
i was terrified.
we were told they would bother you if you were faithful, but also if you fell away.
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badcompany
I have an interesting perspective on this (IMHO). I married one JW and one born again Christian (10 years apart). Both of them left "Christianity" about a year after we married and became Witches (in the religious sense and the exJW is a member of this board). Spirits are around us all the time whether you sense it or not. Most are not here to hurt you...they just are. I used to fear and loath them but I was wrong. Just like the real world there are good ones and bad ones. Bad ones can be dealt with (knowledge and courage required). Good ones are your friends whether you accept it or not. Open up, you might find some friends.
I had to drop 20 years of JW drivel on this subject to get past my fears on this subject.
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Could you ever go back?
by MrFreeze innot that i'm thinking about it, even for a brief nano-second, but something i have thought about is this, is there any way you could go back and not have people look at you with the stink eye?
after admitting your true feelings, how in the world could people ever look at you the same?
if you were in the situation of welcoming someone back, would you be able to look past the errors?
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badcompany
I went back in the '80's (reinstated). I didn't know then what I know now. I could never go back.
CoCo: You can comment with a beard??? That is shocking. I attended every meeting for about a year before they reinstated me. They told me they couldn't reinstate until I cut it. Never did and they finally relented.
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Your First Dealings with Apostates
by badcompany inanother thread sparked this memory but i didn't want to hijack.
my first encounter with apostates was back at a district assembly around 1978. they were picketing outside peacefully with banners and such.
no apostates below could see me but i could hear them.
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badcompany
Another thread sparked this memory but I didn't want to hijack. My first encounter with apostates was back at a District Assembly around 1978. They were picketing outside peacefully with banners and such. It was the first time I'd seen them and I was amazed at how many there were. There were attendants shuffling any witness's that were listening away (me being one of them). I went up into the stadium down a hallway with no traffic. I leaned over the edge and I could see and hear them. About 5 minutes later a LARGE attendant told me to move on because I was encouraging them to continue. I walked away at the time but I came back later but this time I stood against a wall on the other side of the aisle. No apostates below could see me but I could hear them. Well it didn't take long for my Attendant buddy to show up. This time he was pissed. He told me I had no business listening to them and I was to leave the area and NOT come back. I resisted and he physically shoved me down the hall. He took my name off my badge and told me he was going to report me to the elders in my congo if he caught me there again.
Knowing what I know now I would have handled it a lot different. That event probably opened my eyes more than any other to really start questioning. What were the attendants so afraid of? If we had the truth why was it dangerous to hear an opposing viewpoint? What were the apostates so angry about? Why didn't I deck that attendant?
Anyway, if you were an picketing apostate circa '78 Puyallup, WA. THANK YOU for that little spark. Anyone else have an experience like that?