well after 3 crap jobs here in the uk i have secured 2 job offers in 2 days from australia !
one in queensland and the other in nsw hunter valley.. wage is better in nsw and relocation cost's/flights covered etc.. will be on 100k aud as a senior radio engineer for the state emergency service radio upgrade by motorola tetra/p25 for the fire and rescue service.. .
i have been working on this for over 12 months as some of you know, we have a 457 visa sposored by the employer and will be able to get pr after 2 years.
Thanks guys for all your support, we need to go now as I will be too old soon to make the move. It's a massive change for us but we are a close family unit, I think as the UK is finished so to speak so we had better get off the sinking ship now. I hope you have seen me and sleeping beauty on Nuggets birthday post, 2 of my kids were on their also, we had a fab time at cantleaves place..
Update you all soon
HHG/SB
well after 3 crap jobs here in the uk i have secured 2 job offers in 2 days from australia !
one in queensland and the other in nsw hunter valley.. wage is better in nsw and relocation cost's/flights covered etc.. will be on 100k aud as a senior radio engineer for the state emergency service radio upgrade by motorola tetra/p25 for the fire and rescue service.. .
i have been working on this for over 12 months as some of you know, we have a 457 visa sposored by the employer and will be able to get pr after 2 years.
Jamesmahon
Will be East Maitland is that an good for kids ?
HHG
well after 3 crap jobs here in the uk i have secured 2 job offers in 2 days from australia !
one in queensland and the other in nsw hunter valley.. wage is better in nsw and relocation cost's/flights covered etc.. will be on 100k aud as a senior radio engineer for the state emergency service radio upgrade by motorola tetra/p25 for the fire and rescue service.. .
i have been working on this for over 12 months as some of you know, we have a 457 visa sposored by the employer and will be able to get pr after 2 years.
Cantleave, when is it ? You know we will come back to see you all once/twice a year, we will have tha dosh to do it. Can be back in UK in 22 hours
HHG
well after 3 crap jobs here in the uk i have secured 2 job offers in 2 days from australia !
one in queensland and the other in nsw hunter valley.. wage is better in nsw and relocation cost's/flights covered etc.. will be on 100k aud as a senior radio engineer for the state emergency service radio upgrade by motorola tetra/p25 for the fire and rescue service.. .
i have been working on this for over 12 months as some of you know, we have a 457 visa sposored by the employer and will be able to get pr after 2 years.
Well after 3 crap jobs here in the UK I have secured 2 job offers in 2 days from Australia ! One in Queensland and the Other in NSW Hunter valley.
Wage is better in NSW and relocation cost's/flights covered etc.. Will be on 100k aud as a senior radio engineer for the State Emergency Service Radio upgrade by Motorola TETRA/P25 for the Fire and Rescue Service.
I have been working on this for over 12 months as some of you know, we have a 457 visa sposored by the employer and will be able to get PR after 2 years. We leave the UK for Australia sometime late Sept 2012. Me/sleeping beauty and he kids carn't wait and we have already found houses with pools close to the shopping malls and beaches etc..
Keep you all posted about our departure/date..
HHG/SB
i am sick of reading news stories like this .
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I am sick of reading news stories like this Time to sort these JW pedos out ?
By Jane Hunt Friday, January 27, 2012
10:55 PM
A JEHOVAH’S Witness has been jailed for three and a half years for “a catalogue” of sexual offences on two schoolgirls more than 15 years ago.
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</form>Sentencing 40-year-old Paul Wood, formerly of Sudbury, Judge David Goodin said that not surprisingly the impact of the offences on his two victims was still affecting them.
During a trial last year Ipswich Crown Court heard that Wood had indecently touched the girls’ breasts while play-fighting with them.
One of the victims also claimed that further incidents had taken place in Wood’s car when he had got her to touch him indecently over his clothing and had touched her over her clothing
The same victim also claimed that Wood had touched her intimately on one occasion under her clothing and said he had bought her underwear he wanted her to wear.
The court heard that Wood had asked the other victim to put on his wife’s underwear after saying she no longer wore it.
The victims made allegations to the police after hearing in 2009 that Wood was taking up a role with Jehovah’s Witnesses in another part of the country that would have brought him into contact with young women.
The court heard that in 2000 the victims told Jehovah’s Witness elders in west Suffolk about what Wood had allegedly done to them but it was left to the girls to decide if they wanted to go to the police.
Andrew Thompson, prosecuting, said that as the girls did not want to go to the police nothing was done then.
Wood, who now lives in Derbyshire, was found guilty by majority verdicts of 10-2 of nine offences of indecent assault on two schoolgirls when they were aged between eight and 15. He was found not guilty of raping a third alleged victim, aged 17.
Wood denied a total of 17 offences of indecent assault, three offences of rape and one of attempted rape.
After returning guilty verdicts on the nine offences of indecent assault and a not-guilty verdict on one rape charge, the jury was discharged from returning verdicts on the remaining charges.
At yesterday’s sentencing hearing Mr Thompson offered no evidence on those charges and Judge Goodin directed not-guilty verdicts should be entered on the court record.
Wood was ordered to sign the sex offenders’ register indefinitely and was made the subject of a sexual offences prevention order restricting his future contact with children under 18.
Steven Dyble, for Wood,
said his client had not had any previous convictions for sexual offences and had not committed any further offences in the last 14 years.
He said Wood was aged between 20 and 26 at the time of the offences and claimed he had been wrongly convicted
HHG
a daughter .
daughters are precious, in so many ways,.
from the day of their birth, till the end of your days.. .
Tell him to go to hell and never contact you ever again.. How dare he try to guilt you with this shit poem
You don't need a dad like this.. He doesn't respect you !Send him a message saying untill he has nothing to do with the JW faith then you have no choice but to shun him and only to contat me in a emergency.. eg.. you have died
HHG
i've only recently joined but i've been lurking for well over a year.
i'll just start with a bit of my story so you'll have a better idea on were i'm coming from, i've read that much of most of your posts that i feel i already know you all anyway lol.. i'm 32 years old now and for most of my life i've had jw's around me at times, my mom used to study on and off with them all through my child hood alough she never took the plunge i'm not sure why because even to this day she say's she holds the same beliefs but somethings held her back so there's doubt somewhere!.
anyway, having had the magazines around me for most my life i'd read them from time to time,but, when i reached about 17 years old i discovered nightclubs, alcohol and, well you know the rest ;-).. fast forward to my early 20's and i'd had a failed attempt at setting up my own business, my parents had split up after 25 years together and long story short i had a nervous breakdown.
Hi chris
I am in Tamworth Staffordshire and we are having a meet up in Feb at a pub. Are you close enough to come to the gathering ? Lots of us in the UK are going, you are welcome to attend if you want. PM me and I will let you have the details...
HHG
i've only recently joined but i've been lurking for well over a year.
i'll just start with a bit of my story so you'll have a better idea on were i'm coming from, i've read that much of most of your posts that i feel i already know you all anyway lol.. i'm 32 years old now and for most of my life i've had jw's around me at times, my mom used to study on and off with them all through my child hood alough she never took the plunge i'm not sure why because even to this day she say's she holds the same beliefs but somethings held her back so there's doubt somewhere!.
anyway, having had the magazines around me for most my life i'd read them from time to time,but, when i reached about 17 years old i discovered nightclubs, alcohol and, well you know the rest ;-).. fast forward to my early 20's and i'd had a failed attempt at setting up my own business, my parents had split up after 25 years together and long story short i had a nervous breakdown.
Welcome New one ( chris )
You have made the best choice and you know it ! If the elder phones or calls at the door make it clear you respect his beliefs but you are no longer interested in the mind games. Tell him/them to mark you as a do not call on their records. I live in the UK and Sleeping Beauty and I have saved our 4 kids from a life in the cancer. I was a born in 44 years and I got hold of Sleeping beauty 21 years ago when I charmed her with my bookbag
We are all out in our 3rd year of exit and never been happier. If you are in the UK or Australia PM me as I am going to Perth in the next few weeks for a interview for a job with Motorola.
Take Care
HHG/SB
this example is off another site but i think the amount of real jw's who visit jwn may take something from this example and think what the hell am i doing in a religion that treats family like this !
here it is.. it has a few bad words in it though so if you don't like f's don't read !.
they ruined my relationship with my family; i grow up being a jehovah witness when i was 5y/o.
This example is off another site but I think the amount of real jw's who visit JWN may take something from this example and think what the hell am I doing in a religion that treats family like this ! Here it is.. It has a few bad words in it though so if you don't like F'S don't read !
They ruined my relationship with my family; I grow up being a Jehovah Witness when I was 5y/o. The last time I did celebrate my birthday and Xmas I was 4. Then some Jehovah witness came to our apartment with his proper gander about how their false god loves her and she can have eternal life if she would join them. This man whose name is Donald Muntz ruined everything that meant being a family to me. So because I was a naive child I wanted to please my mom I followed her to every meeting they have.
Then I went to school when I became 6 y/o then the trouble started I couldn't celebrate any birthdays, Easter, Xmas 4th of July you get the picture people. I would get into fights because of being a misfit, and when I tried to defend myself, and then my parents would beat me so severe where I had bruising & whelps all over my body. And they would tell me that I should not fight them back, because Jehovah witness didn't fight back. Also I was to get my ass whipped from my classmates because Jehovah would take care of them when the time came which it never came. And this continued until I went to high school. Every time my mom and dad would beat me before getting those severe beatings they would read from there false bible saying that because I did something wrong, no matter how small the offence would be the beating continued until I would say that Jehovah loves me until they believe me and the beatings would stop.
There have been days during Xmas I would look out of my bed room window wishing that there would be some way to celebrate xmas without my parents knowing. Then one day my Grand Mother had me come over to her house after Xmas to give my Xmas gift.
Once I got home my parents tolled me to throw it away and that I was going to get a severe beating for accepting my Grand Mother's gift. People you know that when you grow up you would have some type of hero you know like Yogi Berra, Tom Sever, or Richard Petty. I would get a beating because I was to never have any hero but Jehovah. I would have to be a good little Jehovah and read their false bible everyday no matter what.
All of the pictures that I had on my wall was taken down and ripped up before my eyes, then let the beatings commence!! Because of it. People what kind of childhood is that when you can't even go out side to play huh? What kind of childhood is it when you can't even celebrate anything at all? What kind of childhood is that when the physical abuse, the mental abuse continues until you reach the breaking point of wanting to kill yourself?
When I finally became of age I started my first job with a paper company, and low and behold some how there happened to be another one of those Jehovah witness to spy on me but he was surprised when I cursed him out like the sorry bastard he is. That’s when I had enough of their B S; I left my home to start my own life outside of this cult. I then I was called an apostate, traitor, a disgrace to the family among other things. To this day my parents still not call me at all for example then I will stop my tirade. Just the other day I had to call them because I'm going threw a security background check so I can work for the Government.
All I asked for was their dates of their birthday and they said that until I became a Jehovah Witness they will not give me the info that is needed to complete the check. Now I’m afraid that I will lose my clearance and my job because of them. There is one more thing that I have to say before I go. This past Monday July 18th 2011 My Aunt died from a very bad auto accident. Do you think they would call to tell me about my Aunts passing well you know the answer guys fuck no. I had to hear it from my ex wife and she tolled me that they didn't want to talk to me until I was a Jehovah Witness again. People this has been screwing with my mind ever since this past Monday. I hope that I didn't bore you about my problem, but I had to speak my mind on this.
This example is from July 2011.
HHG
hi, i am new to studying with the jw's and would like to know they best way to start.
any suggestions?.
New to Studing
If you are still lurking have a read of this example..
My name is Kay, I’m 33 years old and I am a Jehovah’s Witness — well, technically anyway. I am part of the growing number of JWs that some like to refer to as the “conscious class”.
I was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness in a zealous household. My father was an elder; my brothers are now elders and all of them have served at Bethel. We were the kind of family that was always on the assembly platform and held up as an example (yeah, one of those families). Although I had the usual teenage thoughts of rebellion, I left school in the early 1990s, took a part-time job and pioneered (Armageddon was so close by now that it was foolhardy to consider buying green bananas, much less go to college).
A few short years later we received “new light” on the “generation of 1914”. Although I was busy with boyfriends and life plans at the time, I secretly felt a little cheated and foolish. I had stood on many a doorstep and sincerely shown to people why this system could not last more than a few short years because the generation of 1914 would soon pass away. For the first time, I contemplated the real possibility of living out my adult life in this system.
I met a brother (that sounds so weird — who wants to marry their brother?) and we got married. My husband was from a divided household and had quite a different outlook to mine, which challenged me, in a good way. In many respects, his upbringing was more balanced than mine, having at least one parent “in the world”. We put off having children — Armageddon had to be so close. A few years passed and we saw our opportunity to have a family slipping by. I didn’t want to find myself aging in this system having missed the boat, so to speak, so we chose to start a family.
Having children shifts your perspective and also gives you little time for listening at congregation meetings! In hindsight, I think this lessened the influence of “the truth” on my mental processes. Ironically, it was during an effort to do more study as the children got a little older that the bomb dropped that shook my world. As part of my meeting preparation I Googled “Jerusalem 607” — to my surprise, I could not find any references from Wikipedia or other such sites. The only links appearing were Witness related; fearing I would stumble upon apostate material, I avoided further research but was deeply troubled. I managed to establish that the general consensus was that Jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 BC.
Eventually my curiosity got the better of me and I ventured onto a much feared “apostate forum”. My heart was racing and I was convinced (although I now realize how ridiculous this is) that I would come under some sort of demon attack! As I read, I felt angry and scared. I had always thought of apostates as bitter individuals who couldn’t meet Jehovah’s standards and made up lies about us. Now I realized that the truth was on their side whilst “the truth” I had grown up with was anything but.
I read avidly for a few weeks, then plucked up the courage to order a book I had seen being discussed and recommended. It was Combating Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan and I was completely blown away by it. I managed to do most of my reading at work and struggled with how to broach the subject with my husband. I decided to seek professional counseling to help me work through my anger and fear.
One evening I sat down with him, and I was physically shaking. We have a good relationship and have generally communicated well during our 13 years of marriage. This was the hardest thing I had ever done. I read some excerpts from Hassan’s book and asked if any of it sounded familiar. We had a discussion that went on for hours, way into the night. When we finally went to bed, he was sobbing in his sleep and shouting my name out. I realized what I was up against — the Watch Tower reaches deep into the heart of a person and holds their soul hostage. During the following weeks, we had many emotionally charged conversations, and my husband kept repeating the same “thought stopping” phrases which I recognized from Hassan’s book. Amongst them were “It has to be God’s organization” and “I refuse to believe God has no purpose.” He confessed that he wanted to throw Hassan’s book in the fire.
We both became tired of the fight and decided to call a mutual unspoken truce. I continued to attend the meetings with my husband (albeit irregularly) and tried to let him see it for himself. Once you have exposed the cult-like behaviors and fallacies of the Watch Tower’s teachings, it’s hard not to see them. After a few months, we were able to discuss things more rationally and objectively, and I realized that the book that would really help my husband, if I could get him to read it, was Captives of a Concept by Don Cameron. I had bought the book myself and was impressed by the clear, concise and yet brief way it refuted the Watch Tower’s claim to be “God’s chosen organization”. Eventually his phobia of apostate material dissipated sufficiently to allow him to read the book. He admitted it made some valid points.
Being an avid reader, I had bought and read a number of books, both by ex-witnesses and psychologists. Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz had confirmed to me that the organization was as corrupt and misguided at the top as it was on the congregation level (something that had always been painfully obvious to me as an elder’s daughter). I knew that if my husband read Ray’s book, he would be deeply affected by it. Over a period of a few months, he read it a bit at a time, then seemed to spend some time reflecting upon it. I let him approach me to talk, and all the time we were still attending meetings. Today, around a year after our first discussion, he is fully cognizant of the organization’s cult like mode of operation and is fully able to think for himself.
What are you going to do ? Make the right choice.
HHG
