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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  It seems to be desperately important to the right to discount and feign ignorance of the OWS message (thus the title of this thread.)

  One would have to be awfully insulated from the real world in order to have no idea what is going on. So it is being framed as "poor against

  rich" (which, actually, would be an interesting turnaround.)

  I've given up discussing that aspect of the protests, because clearly the right has a death grip on ignorance that will not be dislodged by facts.

  Bizzy- You have yet to address the FACT that the OWS movements are littered with open marxists, racist anti-semites, and the legalize marijuana crowd, along with every other faction of single issue protestors. The real problem with the occupy movement is that they don't have a message. It's a bunch of individual messages.

  I've said in previous posts I agree with those in the protests who are protesting the bail outs of banks, auto manufacturers and TARP. Which reminds me that I find it ironic that Richard Trumka is taking the side of the protestors who are protesting the very bail outs for GM and Chrysler that he supported because it kept his UAW members employed. Talk about trying to have it both ways. It's absurd.
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  Do you believe in past lives??

  by watersprout in

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  i am currently studying for my ''crystal therapy'' diploma and in the last module which is next month it looks at ''past life'' regression... well i for one do not believe in living before so will probably doze off during this last module... anyway i have been told by some people i know that i have been here before... apparently i ''date'' back to ''atlantis''... i found it very difficult to hold back my giggles so i said ''really, i always thought i was brand new''... to which started a discussion on past lives.. i just wondered if any of you lovely folk believed in past lives and had ever had any of this type of regression done??

  i may not believe in it, but if it helps someone heal from emotional trauma then good for them and i'm really happy for that one.. just wanted some thought's on the subject.. peace.

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  Nope, but Albert Brooks has a great viewpoint about it in "Defending Your Life" I love that movie!
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  How to convince someone to question the authority of the WT

  by LanaMich19 in

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  i have someone in my family that is a jw and she has engaged me in conversation.

  for the record, i consider myself an evangelical christian.

  after some debate and research, i backed out of a verse by verse debate and switched the convo to get on some common ground, asking if she believe the bible was the inspired word of god.

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  Don't use the word cult.......It turns them off immediately. Instead, ask questions that get them thinking.

  One of the things that got me thinking is the concept of the Faithful and Discreet Slave and the Governing Body.

  Ask her how long the Faithful and Discreet Slave have been on earth. She'll say that they've always been here. Then ask her why Charles Taze Russell didn't find them and started his own group. Shouldn't he have consulted the FDS?

  Or ask how the Governing Body is different from the Pope for the Catholics. She'll probably tell you they don't consider themselves infallible. Then ask why JW's are required to accept everything that comes from the GB as if they're infallible, no matter what the teaching is.

  These are two things that got me out for good.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  Only brainwashed tools are questioning the legitimacy of this movement. Brainwashed, stupid, or complicit. You pick

  Are you saying that no intelligent person could question the legitimacy of the movement? Seriously, you believe that no one could question the legitimacy of the OWS protests that is educated, reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent, and compassionate? Kind of a broad brush don't you think?
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  NC, You are the only one to express anything even remotely resembling outrage at racism at the OWS protests. Everyone else has done nothing to distance themselves from it. I know my comments earlier got under flipper and Bek's skin, but my point is that they expect outrage when wackos show up at TeaParty rallies, but don't express the same outrage when nut jobs show up at the OWS rally.

  Beks: I do not believe you to be racist. I laughed at your response. Very funny.

  I would just like to see you demonstrate the same amount of disgust with these loons as you did when nut jobs show up at tea party rallies. Do you acknowledge that tea party rallies have nut jobs that show up just like OWS rallies and they don't necessarily represent the sentiment of the movement?

  The response seems to be to point at the tea party. It's like saying, "Well, your racists are worse than our racists."
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  But, why don't you give the same lattitude for whackos showing up at tea party rallies?

  It just irritates me that such a big deal was made of fringe people showing up at the tea party rallies, and the left tried to make it out like it was welcomed by the tea partiers (it wasn't).

  I know it isn't the norm for a lot of the OWS movement, but it is an element. Would you agree that the fringe wackos that showed up at the tea parties were no more indicative of the movement than the wackos showing up at the OWS?

  And, NC, you have posted nothing regarding this topic, all that has been posted was a cut and paste report. No one expressing their own feelings on the disgusting behavior going on.
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  When were the annointed resurrected to heaven?

  by drewcoul in

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  i have heard that there has been some changes as to what the witnesses teach regarding the resurrection of annointed to spirit life.. what is the current teaching?

  is it still that an annointed is resurrected "in the twinkling of an eye" as i was always taught?

  i was also taught that this resurrection began in 1918. .

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  drewcoul

  I have heard that there has been some changes as to what the Witnesses teach regarding the resurrection of annointed to spirit life.

  What is the current teaching? Is it still that an annointed is resurrected "in the twinkling of an eye" as I was always taught? I was also taught that this resurrection began in 1918.

  Your help is appreciated.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  Well beks, I would assume since you don't express outrage that you must welcome this type of activity. Sad.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

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  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  The main point is that this movement is attempting to police it's own, even though it's much larger and less organized. The TPers made no such attempt, only excuses

  Beks, This is simply false. The tea partiers were vigilant in getting rid of the fringe wackos that showed up with their hateful rhetoric. You and Bizzy have yet to address the or show outrage at the racism showing up at the OWS rallies.

  I would love to see you left-wingers simply demonstrate the equal amount of outrage at the racism evident at the OWS rally as you did at the alleged anti semitism at Tea party rallies.
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  Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went by a protest today.

  someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

  next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

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  drewcoul

  The Tea Party was tying HCR to Nazi death camps and doing so graphically.

  I'm sorry, but I fail to see any equivalency whatsoever with OWS.

  This is what you posted several minutes ago, Bizzy.

  Here's what you posted earlier:

  I viewed the clips you posted and I see a small handful of people taking advantage of the OWS movement to express anti-semitic views (and others expressing anti-Israel views, which are not the same thing). I don't see how that tiny sample can define a movement which, as yet, does not have a single, unifying, articulated message.

  My question to you, bizzy is simple. Why did you want Tea partiers to express outrage at someone's graphic and tasteless reference to the holocaust even though, as you said in the quote I've highlighted in yellow, that a tiny sample can't define a movement? By your own standards, I would expect you to express outrage at the anti-semitic rhetoric spewing from people in the OWS movement.

  And the fact that some observe Jewish holy days doesn't mean there isn't anti-semitism evident, does it? You've seen the proof of the racist rhetoric, and yet you give thumbs up to someone pointing out that some people observed Jewish traditions as if that proves your point? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FROM YOU CONCERNING THE ANTI JEW FORCES IN THE OWS MOVEMENT. Are you denying it exists, or are you just not going to address it, or are you not outraged because you agree with it?