Posts by elderINewton

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A cracking good JC! This is how it's done, folks.

by Island Man in

in this jc the couple accused of apostasy, lay down some inconvenient and incontestable truths about the organization's teachings that leave the elders speechless - as far as them mustering any efforts to refute them.

oh and by the way, do you remember what geoffrey jackson said at the australian royal commission when he was asked about an inactive jw being called to account if the elders stopped by and find him celebrating the holiday?

don't worry if you've forgotten because the couple mentions it to the elders, you know, seeing as it's the very same reason why they're being accused of apostasy, thus proving geoffrey jackson's statements to be false!.

elderINewton

Well said Shadow.

I'd add that he should have threatened legal action rather than making trouble. In addition he should have included the watchtowers own documentation on there rebuttal from there arc.

They should have never admitted anything as well they followed the JW rules and that screws then over. Hostility never works when your dealing with a cult member, they get defensive. I viewed this whole experience as what not too do if you want to maintain family relationships.

Many other ways to handle this.

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Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt

by rebel8 in

anyone here watching this on netflix?.

it's funny, kind of silly at times, but somewhat relatable.. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ellie-kemper-kimmy-schmidt-character-798166.

elderINewton

You made me get that theme song back in my head. Just love it when in the opening that guy says "it's a miracle".

I binge watched it but got bored pretty fast.

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

elderINewton

John firstly it's great to hear you. I was a touch worried as you were quiet for a while and I enjoy your thoughts and observations.

It's really terrifying that the old guard are waking up. What an interesting time.

Could explain why the gb is emphasizing we are "so close" just to keep them form leaving

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Hello, I'm new here too!

by redpilltwice in

jw
friends

hi everybody, 1st post here.

20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

it feels good!.

elderINewton

Welcome RP2,

Did you step down already? Or are you waiting for the shoe to drop

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Excellent Book for JW's (Psychological Recovery)

by airborne in

jw
friends

i was in the cult for twenty years and da'd in sept. 2014. as time passes i feel that i am ready for more healing.

the fear has passed of being out and i'm never going back to the funny farm.. an excellent book i came across for current and former jw's in the healing process is "exiting the jw cult: a healing handbook" by bonnie zieman.

it's available on amazon kindle for $6.99.

elderINewton

I bought the book for my wife. She hasn't put it down. I'd love to meet the author and buy her a coffee.

I'd recommend it as well to others

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The WT knew in 1922 that 1914 was wrong !

by Phizzy in

in the may 1922 edition of the wt, page 133, rutherford is writing defending the work of russell and the 1914 doctrine, he quotes what some have said to prove russell was wrong :.

" "zedekiah was taken captive and jerusalem fell in the year 587 b. c.; thus showing that the full end of the gentile times and the fall of gentile governments is indicated to take place in 1934".. he goes on, in his own inimitable style, to disprove the above, but note, he is aware of the 587bce date for jerusalem's destruction.. if you are interested, you can read the whole mag here*, just click on pdf to read.. * https://ia700401.us.archive.org/19/items/1922watchtowerarticlesonchronology/1922_watchtower_articles_on_chronology.pdf.

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elderINewton

Interesting find

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Update on everything going on in JW Land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

i'd like to start off by saying that i will be very vague in everything i say.

i am fairly "high up" in jw land and have to be somewhat careful how i word and say stuff.

sorry in advance if any specific details are left out.

elderINewton

depressedsoul

your comment on the younger ones, shows me how disconnected they really are to what is happening with the JW kids. The vast majority google or bing JW and find out TTATT. It is not the video games or movies, they know they have to play nice knowing the real meal deal.

I wondered if they (the GB) were so deluded not to see the information age is making them irrelevant.

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What Are The Possibilities That The FBI Is Investigating The Watchtower Corporation Because Of All Child Molestation And Scandle

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i was just reading this news clip about a mayor from my home town of waterbury, ct how was given a 37 year sentence for raping to minor girls.

the fed were watching him " trying to determine whether giordano was taking bribes from a mafia building contractor, fbi agents learned he was systematically raping the 9- and 11-year old daughter and niece of a prostitute in his office in the city hall.".

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-philip-giordano-appeal-sex-charges-20151204-story.html.

elderINewton

A pedophile database would be enough to justify an FBI investigation. The information would have national and cross state issues. I'm surprised they wouldn't want to get there hands on it for the same reasons we do.

I'd bugg it as well for money laundering.

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JW Broadcasting - December 2015

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qno7yzpqntu

elderINewton

That Splane bit - and how he ends it is nothing more than a suck up. We laid off all the cleaners and now you sisters get to clean you and your hubby's suite. So thank you.

Still that was one boring broadcast.

I will say that I enjoyed that male that worked out everyday because he valued his body, but how he ignored his spiritual well being. The first thing I thought was that he wants to join the ever waist line expanding body. Then sure enough the newly appointed MS friend had a little beer belly coming.

Irony.

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Elders now ORDERED by the Org to fleece the sheep

by The Searcher in

the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.

succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.

(john 11:48).

elderINewton

The real sad part of this is that

1) The WT owns all the Circuits - these funds were only really used to support assemblies.

2) The WT already imposed a tax on the use of assembly facilities in the US and Canada (not sure on UK or Europe) of 5-9/publisher per assembly day, above and beyond the use charge per publisher.

Overall, this arrangement is really a nickle and dime way of ensuring that they get every penny faster. As an example most of us hear from the financial report that we started with $BB then had expenses leading up to assembly and assembly of $EX - the elder then decided to make a donation of $DN to the WT and we have received donations of $IN etc. leaving a defect of this assembly of $EB. (I have never heard a surplus)

This always excludes the donations that come in after the assembly announcement, so this letter really says that we want those monies faster.

Not rocket science, but it does say they have money issues. Its not big funds.