If the second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor, then the watchtower would have never ever lived up to this commandment from God with how they have treated pedophile's victims. How could one ever be considerate of a neighbor by not reporting it?Any other defense would be to deny Christ itself. So how can any faith that uses the bible even think they can side step that.
elderINewton
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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?
by tor1500 ini've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?
by tor1500 ini've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
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elderINewton
It took many years to bring big tobacco down, and they are still alive and they kill people. So Jehovah must be protecting the tobacco companies as well. Must be protecting some drug lords as well.
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Good idea or bad idea?
by stephanie61092 infirst and foremost, thank you so much to so many of you who have reached out to me over the past few days since my post on sunday.
i'm not totally in the best mental state, however, i do have a very small amount of people that i can lean on for support.
i relayed my feelings to a friend (my only friend, really), who took the initiative to inform my family.
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elderINewton
In my experience dropping checks can help, as it shows a willing/grieving spirit. But you need to make sure that an elder knows you are doing it. If you approach the COBE (or elder assigned to you) that you would like to make a donation, but don't wish to make the accounts servant feel awkward, how do I do it? - Then if you give him a check for even say $5.00 he knows and the other elders will find out as well.
If I remember correctly from your other post, your with child. So if you have a elder that loves kids - stress you want to be reinstated before the baby comes out. You can't handle the guilt, etc. of giving birth in a bad condition. Ask them repeatedly (like a pest) what you need to do to make it right for your child. As you wish to "save" the child from the reproach. Or something like that.
Its all a mind game, just play it.
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WBTS goes to Court of Appeal (Charity Commission investigation)
by Mephis inafter a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.
the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.
wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.
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elderINewton
Seriously why would they fight this?
if they were upstanding and didn't care about the publicity, then why? I'm not too sure on the legal side in the UK relative to damages, so I'm in the dark.
Just looking for reasons that might not be obvious..
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Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister
by cappytan inthis video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.
however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.
feel free to claim credit here.
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elderINewton
I still wonder what is the purpose of releasing this to the masses?
It really shows thoughtless and uncaring people that just say to remember the bible. No real personal comfort is given, so is that a message they want the masses to think that the elders only show spiritual support?
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Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister
by cappytan inthis video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.
however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.
feel free to claim credit here.
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elderINewton
Why didn't they edit the cookie part out. I laughed so hard when that happened as I thought it looked like he was thanking God for the cookies.
This video showed me a great split in believers when I saw it and I'm sure will make some wake up while others more in.
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elderINewton
I remember about 3 years ago the co have a talk to elders and servants stressing the need to stay away from porn. He also stated that porn was the number one cause of servants and elders stepping down or being removed.
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Stephen Lett at our assembly today
by StarTrekAngel inhe delivered the most cultic piece of propaganda i've ever seen in an assembly.
wife typed up the whole thing.
i will be posting when i get a chance.
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elderINewton
Anyone who has been trapped in an elevator can see it's a great illustration. Either they keep you trapped in to control what you see and do and keep you confined, or you escape.
Thing may go up or down but if that damn thing keeps you in its like what now?
Man escaping this cult feels the same, as I was once trapped in an elevator for 4 hours. Damn cult was 20 years but thanks for the illustration Lett.
Just for makemeanunbeleiver Luke 21:8 "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them."
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Do You Remember The First Time You Looked At "Apostate" Material?
by minimus ini was always fascinated by it.
as a kid, i used to go to the local library and secretly read books by so called apostates.
later, i would sneak into christian book stores and quickly buy a book or two.
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elderINewton
In university while I was studying with JW's. I didn't understand all the acronyms and didn't bother to dig further into them, as it was all weird.
I remember it was the Orwellian World of Jehovah's Witnesses. It just seemed too far fetched to be real.
Nothing like being wrong.
Then while in, I did nothing for 12 years, and then boom, a googles news article then off to the internet.
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Quality of JW teaching from elders
by sir82 inthere was a recent thread on the "quality" of converts to jws in recent years.
it wasn't a pretty picture, based on the thread contents.. well, the lack of depth isn't restricted to new converts.. in our clam this week, one of the principal points for review was this:.
ne 1:1; 2:1—why can we conclude that “the 20thyear” mentioned at nehemiah 1:1 and 2:1 is countedfrom the same starting point?
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elderINewton
The quality is indeed diminishing probably due to strict confirming to the tms book. Some stuff made sense but never allowed for a person to be anything but a robot. The new clam meeting will amplify this in years to come unless it's all from a TV.
Lastly, the candidates being brought in are not the most well versed or educated. You get what you pay for.