Posts by elderINewton

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

elderINewton

Finding out the truth about the truth is indeed scary, and as such it requires much of your time in research and meditation on that research. Stick to the research first, it will make you more confident with your decisions.

You need more confidence to move forward, so do the leg work to ensure you know what your getting yourself out of. Its one thing to actually leave, its another to know why. As an example, and only an example, if the return to Jehovah brochure speaks to you, then you really haven't done your research.

You can find this is a good community of friends, but like the KH it can be tough as well because many others have gone through similar (but not the same) experiences of dealing with the immense pain of leaving that is caused by many.

I was terrified my wife was going to kick me out, so my goal was to educate myself about the truth, and then I learned to wake up her mind. So what is your goals?

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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

by William Penwell in

in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

elderINewton

VI - spot on with the Penton comment.

I told a CO once that I swear the only ones that agree to a study and get baptized are societies oddballs, or suffering from severe depression and we offer them a friend.

I say this with a grain of salt in that we are all unbalanced in some ways. Makes us human.

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What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the organization has many problems.

certain doctrines are problematic.

the men who run the organizaion have issues.

elderINewton

Humility is there biggest problem. If your humble enough to admit mistakes and make changes it would probably solve much.
Humility and power don't go hand in hand though.

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News Flash: New Reveal Article

by Sugar Shane in

less than an hour old:.

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

elderINewton

I thank the writer for adding more fuel to the fire. Scary to see such proof.
I am so grateful that my family and I could leave. Articles like this made my family question why I was part of such an evil organization. They were right.

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Best pills meds or other to take before meeting?

by Crazyguy in

thought it would be good to share what ones take to deal with the meetings.

elderINewton

Number one pill for sisters appears to be adavan. Helped will anxiety.

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Are you an agronomist or a farmer? If so, I need your help. Related to Miracle Wheat

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

i am doing some investigation on the miracle wheat episode, and i have a question that i don't know the answer to, and i can't find the answer online.. it seems that, from what i have learnt online, that wheat is a self-pollinating, "perfect flower".

this means that once there is a strain that has a quality that's desirable, all you have to do is plant it, and that feature will remain "forever".

essentially the new plants are all clones.given that information, this statement by penton does not make sense:.

elderINewton

Only reason farmers don't keep seed from prior crops is a agreement with Monsanto. We used to keep seed every year to use for the next. Nothing fancy about it when it's wheat.
I had heard from some of the old russelites that some of the miracle wheat was just expensive normal seed.
All wheat is really no different today.
Not sure where but I have heard of russelites in Saskatchewan to find more information.

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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

by tor1500 in

jw
friends

i've been thinking this for a while.

even before the arc scandal.

it seems no matter what, the org.

elderINewton

If the second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor, then the watchtower would have never ever lived up to this commandment from God with how they have treated pedophile's victims. How could one ever be considerate of a neighbor by not reporting it?Any other defense would be to deny Christ itself. So how can any faith that uses the bible even think they can side step that.

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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

by tor1500 in

jw
friends

i've been thinking this for a while.

even before the arc scandal.

it seems no matter what, the org.

elderINewton

It took many years to bring big tobacco down, and they are still alive and they kill people. So Jehovah must be protecting the tobacco companies as well. Must be protecting some drug lords as well.

C

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Good idea or bad idea?

by stephanie61092 in

first and foremost, thank you so much to so many of you who have reached out to me over the past few days since my post on sunday.

i'm not totally in the best mental state, however, i do have a very small amount of people that i can lean on for support.

i relayed my feelings to a friend (my only friend, really), who took the initiative to inform my family.

elderINewton

In my experience dropping checks can help, as it shows a willing/grieving spirit. But you need to make sure that an elder knows you are doing it. If you approach the COBE (or elder assigned to you) that you would like to make a donation, but don't wish to make the accounts servant feel awkward, how do I do it? - Then if you give him a check for even say $5.00 he knows and the other elders will find out as well.

If I remember correctly from your other post, your with child. So if you have a elder that loves kids - stress you want to be reinstated before the baby comes out. You can't handle the guilt, etc. of giving birth in a bad condition. Ask them repeatedly (like a pest) what you need to do to make it right for your child. As you wish to "save" the child from the reproach. Or something like that.

Its all a mind game, just play it.

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WBTS goes to Court of Appeal (Charity Commission investigation)

by Mephis in

after a number of high profile cases where both children and survivors clearly weren't adequately protected, the charity commission here in the uk launched an investigation into the wbts as a whole here in britain.

the main concerns are around the child safeguarding policies being inadequate.

wbts have fought every step of the way so far.. wbts have been to the high court, who told them to complain to the proper tribunal.. wbts have been to the proper tribunal, who told them that too darn right there were suitable grounds for the charity commission to want to investigate their inability to protect children.. and now the wbts have gone back to the court of appeal to demand that the charity commission inquiry be halted.. i hope the court of appeal tells them that, yes, they too need to have proper safeguarding measures for children and to get on with co-operating with the investigation.. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal.

elderINewton

Seriously why would they fight this?

if they were upstanding and didn't care about the publicity, then why? I'm not too sure on the legal side in the UK relative to damages, so I'm in the dark.

Just looking for reasons that might not be obvious..