Posts by Giordano

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Jehovah's house for Sale?

by JohnTron72 in

when i drive by the kingdom hall i grew up attending at but, was sold directly to a church, i get angry.

the elders who handled the sale didn't even remove the watchtower shaped bricks on each side of the sign near the street so, now they advertise for a baptist church.

how many times as i grew up i heard things like: you should not do work ( such as clean carpets for a church) you wouldn't want to work at a cigarette making plant or a facility that makes bombs for the military.

Giordano

First off JohnTron your treating the JW and the Society as a sincere organization. It's not..... there is nothing..... NOTHING in their history that offers any real truth. Any real love.

The WT Society was a poor door to door publishing house......... the religion came much latter...... It grew at a time when people were inclined to accept a message that added up to 'Millions living today may never die'.

Of course everyone died...it was a lie foisted by people who may never have graduated High School. No need for higher education........the 'end' was coming.

Being a JW means living in a religious dump. A religion with no charity, no real hope of living a better life. It's rules and truth changes every year.

It has convinced millions that they should never agree to a life saving blood transfusion. An interpretation that comes from a God who drowned every man, women and child even the unborn and every animal in the great flood.

And your pissed off that a kingdom hall gets sold to another rinky dink religion? A kingdom hall built on the backs of it's followers....financed by it's followers who now will need to travel to a KH some distance away to attend a meeting?

It's not that one religion, a militant religion is willing to justify making a profit off the backs of it's followers. The real truth is that the WTBTS leadership are cheats and liars.

A KH makes a better drive-threw dry cleaners........... Or a Dollar Store.

Some one has to pay the financial judgments handed down by the courts when the Society is found guilty of hiding it's Pedophiles with their two witness rule and their idiot Elders.

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'Evolution' definition can include 'origin of life'

by hooberus in

the popular berkeley evolution site (while responding to the misconception that evolution is just "a theory about the origin of life" does state:.

"evolutionary theory does encompass ideas and evidence regarding life's origins (e.g., whether or not it happened near a deep-sea vent, which organic molecules came first, etc.

), but this is not the central focus of evolutionary theory.

Giordano

Why do so many ex-JWs have so much trouble getting over creationism?

It's not just JW's it's people that need a certainty, a plan, a cause , an explanation that works for them.

It's not science it's belief. Belief is faster then evolution.

A dull mind can only except a short answer.

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Anyway coming back from my blunder?

by Crazyguy2 in

my oldest boy got pissed that i started going back to meetings so i had one last conversation with him as he moved out.

(only went back to try and not loose whole family) during the conversation things got a bit heated and i mentioned a couple of false prophecies in the bible the rest of family heard so now they think i don’t believe at all.

guess their right think my going back was just a ruse, yes that’s true to.

Giordano

Stan,

Your never going to get a real relationship from any family that is still in. It's obvious that they don't have the mental capacity to consider life without their dumb religion.

It is also obvious that 'Family Business' is just about money...not about how your doing, how are you feeling or real family affection .......which is lacking.

They go to their meeting and feel connected until they read or see the criminal nature of their 'truth'.

They rather know your dead or gone..... then how your doing.

Sorry Stan........... but it's the truth all of us experience. Live life well cause it's better then their 'truth'.

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School task on Jehovas Witness

by Balder in

i am writing an essay on jehovas witness and i have a question for you.

what does a normal day of a jehovas witness consist of?

how is your day different from other's?

Giordano

Here is a great site to discover their history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

I also agree that jwfacts.com is an excellent site/.

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My first encounter

by SB10 in

i don’t know if the woman i met yesterday will ever see this.

but i will forever remember that day for the rest of my life.

my grandfather has been in icu for the past 3 days.

Giordano

It's always difficult to deal with the death of a loved one. Yet we all have to deal with that kind of loss. Nobody gets off this planet alive.

Freedom from death was a very strong recruiting tool when it comes to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

The JW's teach that you will be resurrected to live on a paradise earth....... they also taught that 'Millions living today may never die' a powerful message in the 1920's. That teaching was Ignorance coupled with hopefulness. Guess what?

In many respects the JW's are a death cult. They believe they are just about the only people who will survive Armageddon. Leaving billions unprotected.

In their currant beliefs (They change them ..a lot) Thousands die because they can not accept a life saving blood transfusion.

Add in their policy of protecting Pedophiles ( their two witness rule) and you have a mess of a religion.

Please Google JW's and their pedophile problem.

Their Blood Transfusion policy.

Child Baptisms in which a child is held to a life long contract.

JWfacts.com which uses the actual polices and Watchtower writings.

The last person on this planet, from my experience, would not be a JW trying to console me about the loss of a loved one.

A JW may mean right and really care about your loss but they are part of a dangerous cult.

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Another High School Shooting ... Pleasantville, New Jersey

by RubaDub in

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last evening (15 nov 2019) at a high school football game in new jersey, another shooting.

"fortunately," the injuries are apparently not life threatening.. that's at least the second shooting this week.

if all the students were armed, they could have just shot the guy.. we need more guns, not less.

Giordano

One effective solution could be trained people being employed as armed security.

If they have clean records, military experience, past police experience etc. then that's a possible solution.

Things have greatly changed within today's high school in the US.

Today a fair number of High School's service a large area and have thousands of students. It's not only a high school during school hours............ it's a city with three thousand students.

If you have a small community with 1,000 to 3,000 residents there will be some level of policing. It might be a sheriff's district or city police force or State Troopers.

A community with 3,000 residents will have there own on site police force.

Considering the frequency of attacks in schools........ I believe that at a certain level a High School should be patrolled by active trained on site police officers. Officers who actually share some part of the school.

At this point in time no student in the USA is protected during school hours.

Where are the metal detectors? Emergency alarms that call for an immediate police response....... not just the fire department.

Hallway cameras everywhere, reinforced classroom doors, speaker phones to report a problem and of course an active police presence so a response is there in minutes.

Historically we have done pretty well with fire proofing our schools but we have failed to gun proof them.

And one final issue......... In each and every gun assault on school children there was no immediate active medical treatment available. A child gets to lay there bleeding out. There has to be a trained emergency response on site........ not just the school nurse.

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Another High School Shooting ... Santa Clara California

by RubaDub in

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at least at the moment it looks like no one is dead, but 6 injured (9:00 am pacific time 14 nov 2019).. i don't know if the school allows students to carry weapons, but many will think it would be a good idea for the students to carry concealed weapons to provide personal protection.. we shall see.. rub a dub.

Giordano

I like simple solutions that offer the best approach and greatest proven level of safety.

You do what we started to do when schools, back in the old days would catch fire.

We built schools to be fire proof. Used non flammable materials, practiced fire drills. Good communications with the authorities. Working Fire hoses on every floor and every section......and alarms.

School shootings are a different caliber of a disaster. But we know a lot more now then we did back ten or twenty years ago.

You start with fortifying ways to stop a car from driving into the school lobbies It's not expensive to put those concrete crash guards in front of school lobbies.

Cameras in all hallways with an immediate connection to the police so their swat teams or first responders can understand where the shooter is....... etc.

Bullet proof materials for all class room doors and locks that can be bolted shut from inside the classroom.

A way for each class to report to the school office or speak directly with the police.......... reporting where the shooter(s) is or heading to.

School teachers carrying guns......only those volunteers with former military or police training. Only those who will volunteer their off time to work with the police during the summer or holidays on how to keep their students safe. How to defend or blockade every thing that would be necessary to keep students secure including training in first aid and the equipment needed.

And finally it would not be a bad idea to offer the police a free school breakfast or lunch or afternoon snack and designated police only bathrooms. You see cops having a meal in the lunch room or cop cars in the parking lot it sends a message. We serve and protect.

Stop and think how it would have changed the attack if two or three police officers were in the school. If they were so familiar with the school that they would understand immediately, if they heard that a shooter was on such and such hallway and their actual location.

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Would you be OK with someone removing "Jesus'" name from the New Testament?

by Wonderment in

would it be all-right with you if a translator removes "jesus'" name completely from the new testament and replaces it with a substitute, like "master" throughout?.

Giordano

To pick up on Rub A Dub's point.

If your in an American prison and hear "Jesus loves you." That may be a good thing.

If your in a Mexican Jail and hear "Hay-Zoos loves you...you've got a problem.

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Would you be OK with someone removing "Jesus'" name from the New Testament?

by Wonderment in

would it be all-right with you if a translator removes "jesus'" name completely from the new testament and replaces it with a substitute, like "master" throughout?.

Giordano

Lets start with the fact that.......... when or if Jesus walked the earth......... there was no J in the Jewish alphabet. So YHWH was God's name or as close as anyone got which would have been Yahwey. And Jesus would have been called Yesiver.

Jesus and his followers were all Jewish and so they had Hebrew names — although they would likely have spoken Aramaic. The “J” sound used to pronounce Jesus’ name does not exist in Hebrew or Aramaic, which is strong evidence that Jesus was called something entirely different by his contemporaries.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/yeshua-jesus-real-name

Jesus is the Latin version of his Jewish name and meaningless in the times he was around.

A side note....... the real explanation why prayers are not answered or heard is because humans don't know the real name of God and or Jesus. Latin names....... translations........ are not acceptable.

JW's You really can't pray in the name of Jesus when it's not his real name.

As simply as I can put it: Your name is Patrick and your walking up the street and some one calls out 'hey Joe!

Do you go over and say hi? Or do you mind your own business.

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The new JW Bible

by silas hobbs in

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i was recently informed that the new jw bible was reviewed by some academic type person who rated it as one of the best translations available.. has anyone heard of this person and if so what is his reasoning for giving it such a compliment?.

Giordano

"The New World Bible Translation Committee was formed in 1947.. ........... This committee is said to have been comprised of unnamed members of multinational background.[20]

Former governing body member Raymond Franz listed Nathan H. Knorr, Fredrick W. Franz, Albert D. Schroeder, George D. Gangas, and Milton G. Henschel as members of the translation team...........

Referring to the identified members, evangelical minister Walter Ralston Martin said, "The New World Bible translation committee had no known translators with recognized degrees in Greek or Hebrew exegesis or translation... None of these men had any university education except Franz, who left school after two years, never completing even an undergraduate degree."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures

You can't trust anything the Society claims is truth when it's made up by the Society.

My point of view about Holy books comes from an old saying "God's language is silence. Everything else is a poor translation --Rumi… "

Works for me.