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  Pray before sex just like you do for food-W62 3/15

  by krismalone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the governing body has lovingly provided instructions and reminders to couples that they should pray before having sex.

  please be obedient and follow the wise counsel from the gb leaders who never stick their noses into other peoples business and are not creepy cult leaders at all....not!.

  "had he not created the first human pair so that they could cohabit, planted in them an attraction for each other and then commanded them to "be fruitful and become many"?

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  Giordano

  All I can say on this matter, which I learned from a young Bethelite, is......

  ..........if your little general stands up you better salute him.
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  Divorce/Terms of Agreement

  by SFSDGUY in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm a first time poster and i apologize if this topic has been discussed before.

  when i met my wife she was disfellowshiped and were happy, got married, and had a kid.

  after we had our daughter she got reinstated so her family and her jw "friends" could spend time with our daughter.

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  Giordano

  "Long story short the JWs have created a void in our relationship and I have filed for divorce for a couple reasons, but I'm worried about the JW upbringing being inflected on my daughter. "

  Since you are going to have some type of joint custody you should come out of this in decent shape. And have the privilege of helping your daughter to think for herself.

  However what is a more serious influence are the personal friendships she may make in the Kingdom Hall with kids of her age who come from serious JW homes.
  

  The counter to this is to encourage her to make friends at school and also get involved in after school monitored events. If she has a foot in both worlds she will have an opportunity to think for herself.

  The JW's are terrible with children it's just not their nasty pedophile problem but their call for a life time of obedience to whatever they can dream up.

  It doesn't sound like her mother is going to function on her own......nor stay committed to the strict beliefs of the JW's.

  If the subject of getting baptized comes up do mention that Jesus was thirty years old when Baptized.

  There is a bunch of stuff we can discuss based on so many of us who had to deal with and survive the JW world.

  P.S. You need to talk about the JW ban on blood transfusions in your custody agreement and need to be immediately notified if she needs a life saving transfusion.
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  Email from JW relative/elder

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as much as i enjoy you and pete's company, you also know our understanding of how much we want you to be reunited with jehovah and his people.. .

  we did not set the standards for what jehovah says about our associations with those who choose to not serve him.

  so we will always be there for you and pete, but it is in your hands as to how we can enjoy your friendship.. .

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  Giordano

  "In a religious context, shunning is a formal decision by a denomination or a congregation to cease interaction with an individual or a group, and follows a particular set of rules."

  The JW's are indeed coerced by the WTBTS and their Elders to shun JW Family and or close friends under the threat of being shunned themselves if they don't shun.

  Being coerced to do something a person would be reluctant to do is a crime of duress.
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  Do You Think Prostitution Should Be Decriminalized?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the us there is a bill in the house of representatives to decriminalize prostitution.

  what do you think about that?.

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  Giordano

  For a long time there were temple prostitutes who provided sex. So there was organized events:

  "Sacred prostitution, temple prostitution, cult prostitution, and religious prostitution are general terms for a sexual rite consisting of sexual intercourse or other sexual activity performed in the context of religious worship, perhaps as a form of fertility rite or divine marriage."

  Wikipedia

  This is when lipstick became popular. It was a form of advertising other sexual services.

  Back to the subject at hand.............yes prostitution should become legal with some safety features.
  
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  Upon learning of a terminal illness would you return to being a JW to appease your family?

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is an hypothetical question...i am doing well.

  but i was thinking about how my jw family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise.

  of course there would be immediate rejoicing if i came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends".

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  Giordano

  I live for freedom from religion which is the counter weight to the WT's beloved........ freedom of religion.

  Among many of the ignorant the Jw's stand up for foolish and often deadly beliefs.

  The WTBTS is a criminal religion that uses coercion to make people do what they ordinarily would not do.......like shun.

  There is no going back and a reconverted person will gain little to no respect.
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  The Holidays Are No Big Deal Anymore

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you used to hear christmas music blaring on every radio station.

  not anymore.

  people used to jam the roadways and malls to do their christmas shopping and now it’s no big deal.

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  Since we have young grand kids in our lives again we make an effort with gifts and a Xmas tree.

  But what our friends look forward to is our annual New Year's Day party.

  A lot of us have aged and going out New Years Eve is not an experience that older folks can enjoy. Nor even stay awake for.

  But it turns out to fit the bill to welcome in a new year with an afternoon party. Folks bring a dish to share and their favorite beverage.

  We've done nine or ten of these events and we get close to a hundred visits.

  Helps us to keep up with friends and make new ones.
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  Washington Post - Front Page Expose on Mormon Church Billions Tax Fraud

  by POs Son in

  1. social
  2. current

  the wapo has a front page expose on the mormon church avoiding taxes on billions of dollars under the cloak of religion.

  link here: (need to disable popups).

  washington post online.

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  Giordano

  Thanks for sharing this Slidin Fast.

  I read through most of this. Apparently they have amassed 100 Billion dollars which an income producing investing company, with close ties to the Mormon org, keeps this money growing year in and year out.

  It is not used to feed the starving or clothe the poor. The 100 billion is not used for charity.

  When I switched over to the Comments Section they sounded like pissed off ex JW's.....same point of view.
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  Need to vent. I am thinking of leaving my wife.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am so sick of this cult, this religion has such a grip on her.

  since i left in 2014, things just are getting progressively worse.

  and she it's just getting deeper and deeper.

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  Giordano

  Yes she can get a divorce because of the spiritual lack of leadership.

  I think every believing JW looks the other way when it comes to being a JW and getting rid of a mate who opposes the religion.

  "In a healthy marriage, change is welcomed. It is celebrated. But in other marriages, change means growing apart. You no longer share the same vision for your day-to-day living or your future. You no longer share the same passions that you once did.

  Your circle of friends changes. More often than not, you do “your thing,” and your spouse will go off and do “their thing.” It’s unfortunate. But it happens more often than you might like to think."

  https://www.survivedivorce.com/common-reasons-for-divorce
  
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  Need to vent. I am thinking of leaving my wife.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am so sick of this cult, this religion has such a grip on her.

  since i left in 2014, things just are getting progressively worse.

  and she it's just getting deeper and deeper.

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  Giordano

  Very good advice from Carla and truth b known.

  Great questions from dubstepped.

  
  "What are you putting up with? What is she putting up with? What happens if you're authentically you? You say that you don't think she cares if the marriage falls apart. Why do you say that? Be you. Let her be her. If that isn't tenable, and often it is the JW that can't abide by the ex-JW being themselves, then you have to decide if that is worth enduring more of for whatever payoff you see."

  Just like you learned about the truth......it seems you now need to learn the truth about your marriage. Are you dropping small anti JW cluster bombs?

  Does she make every conversation about the truth and the 'friends'.

  There has to be boundaries established in every close relationship for it to thrive. Companionship is the key to having a reasonable marriage.
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  What if .... some thoughts

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, to start, i no longer believe the scriptures are inspired.

  may be some writers were influenced but that does not mean all what they wrote was correct.

  does this mean there is no creator?

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  Giordano

  Here's a saying that can clear the clutter:

  "The natural language of god is silence. Everything else is just a bad translation."