Get out as soon as you can.
Make sure you continue your education be it a trade, higher learning.
Read everything you can get your hands on. jwfacts.com is an excellent information source.
Knowing what the WT actually teaches is mind blowing.
Giordano
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STIR CRAZY please help me covid-19 with religious family
by Wagurl inhi need some help with the teachings regarding the 4type horsemen and the virus.
i'm 17 going to be 18 in six months.
i am a running start student and trying to find the best way to move out after i graduate next year to continue.
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Medical Supplies - Please Help Me Understand the Rationale About States Bidding Against Each Other
by RubaDub ini really don't understand why states have to bid against each other for essential items such as medical supplies.
when you get into bidding wars, the consumers are the ones who lose.. put 50 people in an auction for a product and the one who wins is the manufacturer, not the ones purchasing.. my wife works for a multi-national corporation.
if she is importing or exporting goods, she doesn't determine what the costs will be; this is already determined through the corporate offices that negotiate worldwide movement of products.
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Giordano
https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a
WASHINGTON (AP) — Public health and national security experts shake their heads when President Donald Trump says the coronavirus “came out of nowhere” and “blindsided the world.”
They’ve been warning about the next pandemic for years and criticized the Trump administration’s decision in 2018 to dismantle a National Security Council directorate at the White House charged with preparing for when, not if, another pandemic would hit the nation.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump-fired-pandemic-response-jared-kushner-coronavirus.html
The story is not false. Trump did eliminate the job of coordinating a national pandemic response. And the strongest evidence of the damage he did is that this job is now being performed by Jared Kushner.
In May 2018, the top White House official who was focused on pandemic response departed the White House. “The top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic has left the administration, and the global health security team he oversaw has been disbanded,” reported the Washington Post at the time. Trump and his allies — including then-NSC director John Bolton, who undertook the ill-fated move — have since tried to muddy the waters about these moves, emphasizing the fact that they merely reorganized the National Security Council rather than bluntly firing everybody involved in pandemic response.
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This'll put a smile on your face....
by The Fall Guy in....and you'll think about it every time you hear america singing, "a horse with no name.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4lnc6b4jri.
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Giordano
Beautiful! Just sent it off to ten people all of whom have a great sense of humor. I really cracked up when the cowboy tipped his hat to an imaginary crowd.
What an adorable (especially her) couple giggling after their performance.
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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Giordano
Yes the Society shows bad intent by encouraging their members to pass up a life saving blood transfusion.
They killed off two of our closest family members for want of a life saving blood transfusion. Needless deaths abound in the JW world. Abuse of children, lack of education. The JW world is dark and cruel.
The Society has lied and fought to keep those lies protected.
AA are you getting a whiff of the Catholic Church, or the Boy Scouts failed excuses for their child sexual abuse problems. The JW's are in good company.
The ARC found 1006 cases of JW child sexual abuse in Australia attributed directly to the JW's. How many cases were turned over to the police..........not a single case. These children were abused over and over and over again....think about it.
I feel AA that your on a mission to convince us that the Society and it's JW's are wonderful people.They are not......... they break the law, hide information, and hurt the little children.
Jesus said "don't hinder the children from coming to me." Does the WT follow that...hell NO!
Do you think they are doing a good job of any of the basics? Food, Shelter, Respect for not allowing the sexual abuse of the children. No...... the JW's have no faith because it's all made up. The Society decides what you will be compelled to believe each and every year.
I sense you are bull shitting us with discussions that don't matter at all.
Slice it and dice it your interests run deep into the WT beliefs............. why try to bullshit us. The Society runs a criminal organization and they are very protective of Jehovah's good name cause that's how the money comes in.
AA As far as your concerned your sucking on the tit of needless bible ramblings.....trying to provoke a meeting of minds with those who have long abandoned the sickness that a JW has eagerly accepted.
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June 2020 Study Watchtower - One or two little gems! :(
by The Fall Guy instudy watchtower, june 2020, box on page 22 - "note the comment made by an inactive one in spain: “i want to be reactivated, but it is very difficult.
but it is not easy.
i have to change my lifestyle and cut ties with some worldly friends.".
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Giordano
They speak as though it is all about US ,why we left. They can't imagine it is because of THEM and their teachings
The Watchtower Society writes with such assurance that it really doesn't matter to it's readers and public speakers what they are saying.
The WT conclusion is that they and they alone have the truth.....until they realize that they have painted themselves into a corner....once again.
"Er....... no we never ment that. The crap that we once believed is now being replaced with a better load of crap.
You got to....... Love me some Jehovah.
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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Giordano
Sorry AA I normally put a citation in.
The Following is the Pew religious Survey:
Jehovah’s Witnesses have a low retention rate relative to other U.S. religious groups. Among all U.S. adults who were raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses, two-thirds (66%) no longer identify with the group. By contrast, about two-thirds of those who were raised as evangelical Protestants (65%) and Mormons (64%) still say they are members of those respective groups.
They are now last in higher education.
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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Giordano
See below:
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June 2020 Study Watchtower - One or two little gems! :(
by The Fall Guy instudy watchtower, june 2020, box on page 22 - "note the comment made by an inactive one in spain: “i want to be reactivated, but it is very difficult.
but it is not easy.
i have to change my lifestyle and cut ties with some worldly friends.".
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Giordano
Whats that old joke?
The JW governing body is interrupted by one of those attending brothers.
"I've got good news and bad news. Jesus is on the phone!"
"That's great news say the members of the Gov Body but what's the bad news?'
"He's calling from Salt Lake City!"
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I'm interested in discussing basic JW doctrines that you believe are unscriptural
by AlainAlam inbackground info: although i'm an apostate, i don't hate jehovah's witnesses, or the organization itself.
actually i find that many derogatory comments here are extremely biased.
i think most of them are amazing people, and i wish more non-witnesses were like them.
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Giordano
The Jehovah's Witnesses kill off more of their followers every year then Jim Jones managed to do in one night. Jim Jones was a drug induced criminal who saw death as the way out of this world. So does the Governing Body.
The Governing body favors death for their followers...for want of a blood transfusion.....over sane medical practices. They are criminals in my opinion.
With their 'end time' beliefs the JW's are a certifiable death cult. It's all about them being right and looking forward to the death of 8 billion people who are not JW's.....well before their time.
Eating or drinking blood is separate from a blood transfusion. A blood transfusion is not eating it's a transplant. But like every doctrine the WT has favored they are wrong because they support an answer before any proof is looked at. Being wrong on this scale is deadly.
According to the Pew Religious Survey .......The divorce rate for JW's is 11% which is the same as most Christian religions.
The higher educational religion of the JW's is the lowest of those religions surveyed. It's high school and out (pioneering).
Even the Society sent out a letter calling for volunteers who had a college background.
WTF!
67% of JW born-ins stop identifying as JW's compared to 30% of Mormons.
Being a JW is being in a dead end religion. The hope it offers is building a paradise (the bible never mentions 'Paradise earth') over the bones of Billions of innocent people.
Like it or not not those Billions are not going to be resurrected......just as we've never heard from Jesus again for over 2000 years.
AA you need to grow up. Reworking Bible crap is never any good. Go get an education.
Get some fresh thinking in your life....there is nothing worth while in the bible unless your prone to be anti human.
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Personal story
by Youngaposthate ini was raised in this sect, 1st gen. was isolated from any family.
had suicidal attempts because of this sect.
family as always instead of being a backbone of support, victim blamed.
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Here is a fine web site that agrees with you Totally.
http://journeyfree.org/rts/rts-its-time-to-recognize-it/;
Take a look and see what you think.
That's the unspoken rule on this forum........ you get to decide what's right for you and what you can agree about or not agree about.
Another interesting point of view is that the American President and five star General Dwight Eisenhower was raised as a International Bible Student which was guided by the Watchtower and their idiot Golden Age that became the Awake magazine.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/56651/president-eisenhower-his-jehovahs-witness-background
The Kingdom Hall was in the families living room.
His father dropped the religion and his brothers dropped out of the religion as well. His mother kept the ever changing faith.
I think it was ironic that an ex JW would become a general and was driven to not only defeat Hitler and his Nazi's who then opened the concentration camps to save as many lives as he and his army could.
Apparently Jehovah was too busy creating black holes in the solar system and cared not a wit for all of the people who died in the gas chambers.
A loving god, misnamed Jehovah, has never been supportive of human life.
My thought....... life is all about being a worth while human not a worshiper of any nasty god.